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« Reply #360 on: Saturday, April 10, 2021, 00:59:04 »


Apologies for getting this wrong. Although it would appear the power hasn't been used since 2008, again, happy to be corrected if others can find a more recent instance.

I really don't think you need to apologise (although it is admirable). What's more important is that you continued digging to find out the root of your own initial query. In turn that has probably made things much easier for others to understand and see where/if any wrongdoing would be subject to a points deduction. Even if that is at the expense of a faux pas for yourself Smiley
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« Reply #361 on: Saturday, April 10, 2021, 03:15:36 »

Luton were the last club to be docked points by the FA. Since then, though, they have only applied bans and/or fines.

There was a huge row about the FA giving Luton the 10 points deduction which may have been the tipping point of why they, seemingly, no longer dish them out.

Luton’s FA charge was about paying unlicensed football agents. That, along with FL points deduction for exiting admin without a CVA in place, had them start life in L2 on -25 points.

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There is a growing recognition in football that league tables are becoming too determined by complicated financial events off the field resulting in clubs being docked points. Leeds United agreed to a 15-point deduction last season for failing to agree a CVA, but the Revenue and Customs' refusal to approve CVA settlements where "football creditors" are paid in full is making it extremely difficult for any administrator to get a CVA through. Next season, while Luton Town will begin bottom of League Two on minus 25 points if their appeal is unsuccessful, Bournemouth are likely to be on minus 15, and Rotherham, too, on minus 15 if their proposed CVA fails. While most Football League clubs firmly believe there should be strong sanctions for clubs that over-pay players then collapse into insolvency, there is some pressure on the league to review its policy that points should automatically be deducted.’
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« Reply #362 on: Saturday, April 10, 2021, 07:17:32 »

Rotherham, Bournemouth, Leeds & Luton

All teams comfortably above us...
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« Reply #363 on: Saturday, April 10, 2021, 08:22:55 »

Looks like The Athletic are going to be doing a piece on the situation. As with their Oldham Athletic article/expose earlier this year, they go in to great depth and get a lot of interesting stories from behind the scenes.
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« Reply #364 on: Saturday, April 10, 2021, 10:06:53 »

The other thing to consider is how odd this affect any potential takeover? The prospect for new owners to pay any fine as well as a points deduction are not great selling points.
If a fine wasn't paid directly paid by the club it would just be deducted from the distribution monies from the TV deal.
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« Reply #365 on: Saturday, April 10, 2021, 10:28:18 »

Rotherham, Bournemouth, Leeds & Luton

All teams comfortably above us...

Maybe they are but they have a longer way to fall and therefore more to loose. I doubt very much that they’re looking at us and thinking the opposite.
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« Reply #366 on: Saturday, April 10, 2021, 13:21:39 »

Maybe they are but they have a longer way to fall and therefore more to loose. I doubt very much that they’re looking at us and thinking the opposite.

Eh?

They all did their failing and bounced back years ago...
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« Reply #367 on: Saturday, April 10, 2021, 13:47:01 »

Eh?

They all did their failing and bounced back years ago...

Oh I see, my bad I thought that was going on now 😳 ah well, I did think why have I not heard anything about this nationally 🤣🤣
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« Reply #368 on: Saturday, April 10, 2021, 16:54:39 »

I think in respect of the EFL- if they did impose points deductions then legally we would have a strong case.

The alleged 800k investment for 50% of the club took place in 2013 when Power took over.

Obviously the EFL did not do their homework on 2 counts:

1) source of the funding for the takeover
2) fit and proper persons test

I think legally we would have a strong case to challenge any sanctions the EFL impose- am sure the trust are onto this
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« Reply #369 on: Saturday, April 10, 2021, 17:26:54 »

I thought Power took ages to pass the fit and proper test didnt he?
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« Reply #370 on: Saturday, April 10, 2021, 17:30:27 »

I think in respect of the EFL- if they did impose points deductions then legally we would have a strong case.

The alleged 800k investment for 50% of the club took place in 2013 when Power took over.

Obviously the EFL did not do their homework on 2 counts:

1) source of the funding for the takeover
2) fit and proper persons test

I think legally we would have a strong case to challenge any sanctions the EFL impose- am sure the trust are onto this

Strong statements - I infer that you are sports lawyer
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« Reply #371 on: Saturday, April 10, 2021, 17:36:25 »

I think in respect of the EFL- if they did impose points deductions then legally we would have a strong case.

The alleged 800k investment for 50% of the club took place in 2013 when Power took over.

Obviously the EFL did not do their homework on 2 counts:

1) source of the funding for the takeover
2) fit and proper persons test

I think legally we would have a strong case to challenge any sanctions the EFL impose- am sure the trust are onto this

Maybe Power used dodgy accountants to conceal the money from the EFL
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« Reply #372 on: Saturday, April 10, 2021, 18:21:03 »

Maybe Power used dodgy accountants to conceal the money from the EFL
Power,  Dodgy  ??,    Never !!.
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« Reply #373 on: Saturday, April 10, 2021, 18:23:00 »

Power,  Dodgy  ??,    Never !!.

Poor bloke takes some stick😀
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« Reply #374 on: Sunday, April 11, 2021, 12:34:22 »

Get ready for more Power dodgy dealings to come out of the woodwork this week!!
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