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« Reply #180 on: Thursday, April 8, 2021, 11:14:24 »

You can be sure that HMRC will be sniffing around as well  Hmmm
They don't give up !

Didn't they just withdraw their sponsorship?
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« Reply #181 on: Thursday, April 8, 2021, 11:30:40 »

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/14577530/gareth-barry-fa-rap-swindon-stake/

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Former midfielder Standing, who joined Aston Villa on the same day as Barry in 1997, and his company First Touch Pro Management were charged with breaching intermediaries regulation E4, relating to owning/seeking to own Swindon Town.

Power and Swindon have been charged with FA rules E1.2 and E9 (agreement to breach rules/regs) in having an agreement for Standing and First Touch to have an interest in Swindon (contrary to intermediaries reg E4)".
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« Reply #182 on: Thursday, April 8, 2021, 11:44:13 »

Didn't they just withdraw their sponsorship?

You're on form today, Ben Cheesy
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« Reply #183 on: Thursday, April 8, 2021, 11:50:34 »

I know nothing about corporate law and fa about FA regulations.

Does anyone more knowledgeable however think the club may have a counter claim against Power for any losses arising from Power acting in breach of his fiduciary duty to the club, in particular for acting outside of its constitution?

In a word, no.

The director i.e. Power is responsible for the running of the company, the only person(s) who can hold directors to account are the majority shareholders, which is also Power (or Barry/Standing, depending on the court case).
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« Reply #184 on: Thursday, April 8, 2021, 11:57:00 »

It appears the "Hustler of Herisau" is finally getting unpicked.
The "Geezer from Geneva" is being found out.
"Lee of Lausanne" is on the ropes and no longer has anyone to hide behind.

You can guarantee the cunt will drag the club down with him, rather than swallow his pride.

Nice bloke. Cunt (not an endearing one).
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« Reply #185 on: Thursday, April 8, 2021, 12:16:46 »

I don't understand how the club could possibly be found guilty here. The club is just a vehicle used for the dodgy dealings made outside of official club business. The fact the money has been funnelled into Power's businesses and into the club, how is anyone within the club supposed to recognise the source of the funds without access to all of Power's business accounts?

Surely the club should be cleared of all wrongdoing and Standing, Barry and Power have the book thrown at them and banned...
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« Reply #186 on: Thursday, April 8, 2021, 12:28:54 »

I don't understand how the club could possibly be found guilty here. The club is just a vehicle used for the dodgy dealings made outside of official club business.

The way I read things (pending court case), at present Lee Power is the sole owner ergo he is "the club". Even if in reality those two things are seperate (businessman (very loose term) and business).
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« Reply #187 on: Thursday, April 8, 2021, 12:32:38 »

But if a business owner, or chief exec, or MD etc are found guilty of an offence related to their business the individuals are punished, not the business.

Think Nick Leeson.
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« Reply #188 on: Thursday, April 8, 2021, 12:38:06 »

In simplicity possibly but you could guarantee the "Lewisham Lone Wolf" would drag the club with him.
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« Reply #189 on: Thursday, April 8, 2021, 12:41:00 »

But if a business owner, or chief exec, or MD etc are found guilty of an offence related to their business the individuals are punished, not the business.

Think Nick Leeson.

Under criminal law that is generally the case although there have been changes made over the last few decades to hold companies to account for a collective failing Eg corporate manslaughter

In this case it is a breach of FA regulations it is not the same as law. 
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« Reply #190 on: Thursday, April 8, 2021, 13:14:56 »

I don't understand how the club could possibly be found guilty here. The club is just a vehicle used for the dodgy dealings made outside of official club business. The fact the money has been funnelled into Power's businesses and into the club, how is anyone within the club supposed to recognise the source of the funds without access to all of Power's business accounts?

Surely the club should be cleared of all wrongdoing and Standing, Barry and Power have the book thrown at them and banned...


Surely the club should be cleared of all wrongdoing and Standing, Barry and Power have the book thrown at them and banned...

In an ideal world yes but as we have seen before making an example of a club is the modus operandi in punishment terms. All three of the wrong ‘uns can walk away from football STFC cannot, it is football.
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« Reply #191 on: Thursday, April 8, 2021, 13:18:10 »

Does anybody have any idea how long it will be before they make any decisions?  How long do these things usually take?
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« Reply #192 on: Thursday, April 8, 2021, 13:21:08 »


Surely the club should be cleared of all wrongdoing and Standing, Barry and Power have the book thrown at them and banned...

In an ideal world yes but as we have seen before making an example of a club is the modus operandi in punishment terms. All three of the wrong ‘uns can walk away from football STFC cannot, it is football.

Are we a top flight club? 
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« Reply #193 on: Thursday, April 8, 2021, 15:56:54 »

Interesting comment from Nixon.

We are charged by the FA who don’t award points deductions - only the EFL do that.
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« Reply #194 on: Thursday, April 8, 2021, 15:58:28 »

So we can wait for a chare from the EFL, then?
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