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« Reply #15 on: Sunday, June 7, 2020, 13:39:06 »


Thanks for posting videos and I honestly couldn't remember Jimmy greaves backing STFC or Atkinson whinging about Wednesday being hard done by!
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« Reply #16 on: Sunday, June 7, 2020, 14:35:02 »

Being one of one last to leave the holding area in Faringdon Road Park for the protest march, and turning right into Milton Road, the head of the march was turning back into Commercial Road from Fleming Way. That stretched all the way up Milton Road, Commercial Road, Princes Street & Fleming Way. One of the largest protest matches in Britain outside of London was a description in a national rag. About 15,000 I recall?

The planned concert afterwards in FR Park was cancelled due to safety concerns.
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Them there protest marches are all well and good but has there ever been one that has actually changed anything ?
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« Reply #17 on: Sunday, June 7, 2020, 15:25:09 »

Weirdly today I was putting some of the old kids VHS videos onto my PC so I can finally get rid of all the old video tapes and came accross a few highlights of Swindon matched from the late 80s and early 90s plus the whole Swindon v Bristol City live game on Sky when Fallon scored the cracker.

On another tape I had written "Swindon 90" and played it and it had a 30 minute HTV football special dedicated to our demotion called "Swindons nightmare".

Going itno all the details etc with Roger Malone.

I will try and copy it off tomorrow and put it onto YouTube.
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« Reply #18 on: Sunday, June 7, 2020, 15:29:28 »

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One got Lou Macari reinstated!
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« Reply #19 on: Sunday, June 7, 2020, 18:22:38 »

You can imagine the uproar now if the winner of the Championship playoffs was denied promotion. Or that the chairmen of clubs in the division you were going into decided the outcome.

Unfortunately in 1990 there wasn't much reaction outside Swindon/Wiltshire. I am sure the petition from Swindon fans got dumped in the bins at the FL office.

The other thing was it happened during the 1990 World Cup do there was a news story with Alan Mac in the Ireland team but as England progressed the story moved on.
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« Reply #20 on: Sunday, June 7, 2020, 19:08:46 »

You can imagine the uproar now if the winner of the Championship playoffs was denied promotion. Or that the chairmen of clubs in the division you were going into decided the outcome.

Unfortunately in 1990 there wasn't much reaction outside Swindon/Wiltshire. I am sure the petition from Swindon fans got dumped in the bins at the FL office.

The other thing was it happened during the 1990 World Cup do there was a news story with Alan Mac in the Ireland team but as England progressed the story moved on.

Media was different back then.  And no social media, or course, for every self-appointed expert to discuss it to death.  But as an avid collector of news clippings (mentioned above) on this story, I can confirm that the national newspapers were carrying the STFC story all summer...or at least until the demotion was reduced, on appeal, to one division.  I'm sure that having Ossie as Manager raised the profile of the story a few notches.  And football was big news anyway while all that was happening with the World Cup in Italy.
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« Reply #21 on: Sunday, June 7, 2020, 19:31:26 »

I am currently recording to Youtube all the news reports surrounding this and the national news it made, from breakfast news through to the reactions at Swindon and the HTV program going into details I will post the link up tomorrow of them all, I am glad I recorded everything I could back then!
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« Reply #22 on: Sunday, June 7, 2020, 19:40:19 »

Lovely bit of curation there JJ, documenting the most defining time in Town's history I'd say.

Can't say for certain but I genuinely think that at that time, Town would've cemented themselves as a top tier club. Especially with the squad we had. I know Glenda got us there a little while after but the format had changed and the PL was already incarnated. Had we "got in" beforehand when we should've, I think we'd still be there or thereabouts.
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« Reply #23 on: Sunday, June 7, 2020, 19:54:03 »

Lovely bit of curation there JJ, documenting the most defining time in Town's history I'd say.

Can't say for certain but I genuinely think that at that time, Town would've cemented themselves as a top tier club. Especially with the squad we had. I know Glenda got us there a little while after but the format had changed and the PL was already incarnated. Had we "got in" beforehand when we should've, I think we'd still be there or thereabouts.
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« Reply #24 on: Sunday, June 7, 2020, 20:21:57 »

Are you taking the piss ?

No not at all. Not in this instance. So you're certain that had Town been promoted to the top flight when they should've been, they wouldn't have sustained it or be thereabouts today?

It was clearly a defining moment in the clubs history.

Are you taking the piss?
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« Reply #25 on: Sunday, June 7, 2020, 20:51:06 »

Wasn't it a year or two later that the FA or FL published a report on the views of fans into football in general? Rather unthoughtfully the cover of the report had a background photo of fans at a game - they were Swindon fans at Wembley in 1990.
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« Reply #26 on: Sunday, June 7, 2020, 21:09:58 »

No not at all. Not in this instance. So you're certain that had Town been promoted to the top flight when they should've been, they wouldn't have sustained it or be thereabouts today?

It was clearly a defining moment in the clubs history.

Are you taking the piss?
It's a stretch to stay we would have sustained until now given the turnover of clubs in the top flight over the last 30 years

However, it is the Sliding Doors moment in our history.

That 89/90 team was at it's peak and could have lasted 2 or 3 years until the PL money came along. The club would have been more financially sustainable and maybe built up the supporter base and redeveloped the CG.

The club's financial problems of the 90s really started from there. We paid that squad good money, as they had proved themselves, to chase the dream and ran up debts chasing the dream which were paid off by breaking up the squad. That played a big factor in Hoddle going.
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« Reply #27 on: Sunday, June 7, 2020, 21:29:48 »

When this all happened I was working in Lincoln's Inn in London and I went to watch in the High Court in my lunch break.
Suffice to say it was all legal jargon etc etc and could really have been about anything !
Ardiles was there but I think he was a trained lawyer ?
All I can remember was the barrister for the FL was a typical Eton, Oxbridge, type who sucked up to the judge at every opportunity. The STFC lawyer was a specialist sport lawyer and was a grammar school boy done good and a real bundle of fun & energy.
I remember they spent ages arguing about fees, with our lawyer claiming that the FL had score an own goal, which probably went right over the judge & FL lawyers heads  Cheesy
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« Reply #28 on: Monday, June 8, 2020, 09:56:35 »

Lovely bit of curation there JJ, documenting the most defining time in Town's history I'd say.
I used to have every Swindon highlight from 1980 to 1996 recorded but my ex wife decided to destroy almost all of them except the couple I have just found.

I am having problems with sound quality of my video capture using Arcsoft Showbiz so I am trying to find a better quality usb video recording software, as soon as I have found one I will share the results via youtube on here.
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« Reply #29 on: Monday, June 8, 2020, 13:45:46 »

Get a thread set up PV.

I found a folder full of videos I'd hoarded yesterday that I should probably do something with. A few full-matches (Huddersfield and Wigan FA Cup games, Sheffield United play-offs), 2009/10 highlights of every game, 2011/12 season review, Soccer AM crossbar challenges, Six Days to Saturday, and a clip of Simon Cox's wonder goal in the friendly vs. Fenerbahce.


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