Labour Leadership

[Outletred]

Labour will be out of office for at least 2 terms anyway.

Arch remainer Starmer will go down bout as well as a cup of cold sick in the red wall seats that voted leave

[pauld]

He's a leader, but he also has a firm handle on detail.  Johnson is going to have to change tack, because his Bunter-esque flibber flabber isn't going to work any more when the person across the dispatch box is forensically dismantling your ideas.

Don't think that makes much difference any more. It wasn't Corbyn's performances at PMQs that caused Labour to tank in December

[Arriba]

Labour will be out of office for at least 2 terms anyway.

Arch remainer Starmer will go down bout as well as a cup of cold sick in the red wall seats that voted leave

And some still bang on about Brexit


I wouldn't be so sure either. We've the aftermath of this disaster we're gonna get and the inquest into the failings of the current government. Plenty of people will lose loved ones and they won't forget.

[Outletred]

And some still bang on about Brexit


I wouldn't be so sure either. We've the aftermath of this disaster we're gonna get and the inquest into the failings of the current government. Plenty of people will lose loved ones and they won't forget.

And so under labour no one would have died then?

I think you will find the government have high approval ratings on all this stuff.

The inquest will be around how the virus developed in the first place. No health systems are really geared up for this whether state or private.

[Flashheart]

And so under labour no one would have died then?

Ha ha. What a ridiculous strawman.

[Arriba]

And so under labour no one would have died then?

I think you will find the government have high approval ratings on all this stuff.

The inquest will be around how the virus developed in the first place. No health systems are really geared up for this whether state or private.

1. Of course some would have died. The NHS would have been better funded in preparation though.

2. That will change as more and more die from the virus. And people with other conditions that will now due to not being able to get diagnosis/treatment.

3. Agree with the first sentence to a point but there will be questions asked here too. We are worse prepared than many other countries and have been for years. People will demand answers.

[Outletred]

1. Of course some would have died. The NHS would have been better funded in preparation though.

2. That will change as more and more die from the virus. And people with other conditions that will now due to not being able to get diagnosis/treatment.

3. Agree with the first sentence to a point but there will be questions asked here too. We are worse prepared than many other countries and have been for years. People will demand answers.

Delusional.

As if labour know how to generate cash to fund public services that’s the biggest joke I’ve heard this year. Maybe they could’ve started without loading hospitals with massive PFI debts for a start.

[Saxondale]

The post mortem will read - we weren't ready.  You cannot operate in an emergency after a decade of governments idealogical austerity has left us with too few nurses, too few doctors, too few police, too few members of armed forces.  It will read, a Prime minister ran away to hide in a fridge.

Austerity can work in times of relative calm but in times of crisis it fails and when this is over the fingers will know where to point.

[Arriba]

Delusional.

As if labour know how to generate cash to fund public services that’s the biggest joke I’ve heard this year. Maybe they could’ve started without loading hospitals with massive PFI debts for a start.

Meh, whatever. You're entitled to your opinion.

The Tories have been in power for a decade!
 They have proven in the last few weeks that money was/is available if necessary.

[Abrahammer]

You would think our health care system is the only one struggling here.

The Italian one, rated 2nd best in the world, is falling apart at the seams under the pressure with similar PPE issues as well. Similar situations in Spain and France.

Doesn’t excuse things over here at all but to imply ours is only system struggling badly is incorrect

[Arriba]

You would think our health care system is the only one struggling here.

The Italian one, rated 2nd best in the world, is falling apart at the seams under the pressure with similar PPE issues as well. Similar situations in Spain and France.

Doesn’t excuse things over here at all but to imply ours is only system struggling badly is incorrect

Who's doing that??

[suttonred]

Well done labour voters for nominating Blair mk 2. Lets hope he's not, and better than the current selection of half wits across all parties.

[Legends-Lounge]

Delusional.

As if labour know how to generate cash to fund public services that’s the biggest joke I’ve heard this year. Maybe they could’ve started without loading hospitals with massive PFI debts for a start.

I think you may be pissing in the wind here. Just ask Gosportrob.

[ron dodgers]

Well done labour voters for nominating Blair mk 2. Lets hope he's not, and better than the current selection of half wits across all parties.

thanks, I'm quite happy with the result, but Grangela only got in on round 3

[Nemo]

Well done labour voters for nominating Blair mk 2. Lets hope he's not, and better than the current selection of half wits across all parties.

Do you really see no possible ground between Blair and pure Corbynism or are you on a wind up?