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« Reply #255 on: Thursday, April 23, 2020, 18:56:40 »

Keen for PPG isnt he
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« Reply #256 on: Thursday, April 23, 2020, 19:10:50 »

Keen for PPG isnt he
But he’s right though, isn’t he. There are fans from a lot of clubs who are convinced their wealthy owner is going to carry on funding their club for as long as it takes. Noticeable that the Argyle owner says he is willing to bridge the gap ‘in the short term’, I.e. until the end of June.

What happens after that? Lots of clubs with owners unable to fund their clubs til then I reckon.
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« Reply #257 on: Thursday, April 23, 2020, 20:00:35 »

I assume from this that you have not objected to, or made any negative comment on, the manner in which STFC is run by the owner (s)  of what is a privately owned business.

I can complain about football and a club like I can complain about anything else.

The point is footballers are just employees. It's wrong to cap how much someone can earn.
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« Reply #258 on: Thursday, April 23, 2020, 20:06:46 »

Really good, transparent and logical statement from the Plymouth owner

https://www.pafc.co.uk/news/2020/april/chairmans-chat/
Interesting stuff on league restructuring. He seems to be suggesting that the National League at least (and possibly the leagues below in the pyramid) all be brought into the Football League to remove the stigma around "dropping out of the League", especially in a time when most National League sides are full time anyway. And, post-Covid, it's not unthinkable that some Football League sides might end up having to go semi-pro
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« Reply #259 on: Thursday, April 23, 2020, 20:08:37 »

I can complain about football and a club like I can complain about anything else.

The point is footballers are just employees. It's wrong to cap how much someone can earn.
But a %age of revenue wage cap on the club which you were in favour of (rightly IMO) would also cap how much someone could earn, albeit relative to a club's revenue. It's still a cap.
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« Reply #260 on: Thursday, April 23, 2020, 20:11:23 »

It wouldn't cap how much someone can earn (within reason). It's a cap on how a club, as members of a league that they help regulate, can spend their money. If they wanted to pay one player 80% of the cap, that's their shout.
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« Reply #261 on: Thursday, April 23, 2020, 20:20:57 »

Listening to the Richie Wellens interview on Talksport then it sounds like much will happen in the next couple of weeks. He played down the financial situation with the advance of the EFL/PL money.

EFL has set a May 18th date for resuming training for a June 6th restart. If that training date gets pushed back then they start running out of weeks to finish the season.
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« Reply #262 on: Thursday, April 23, 2020, 20:23:25 »

It has always puzzled me how the USA, bastions of free market policies, have restricted all of their sports to a "Socialist" model of revenue sharing, drafts, total salary caps etc.  Generally speaking, they strong arm the local councils into paying for new stadiums as well.

Completely agree.  I've been thinking just the same thing.  And this, from the country that rejects the concept of universal healthcare because it's 'socialist'.  'We'll allow the evening up of club finances and player recruitment because it makes things fairer.  But guarantee a minimum level of health provision to everyone in society?!  Fuck off!!'  It's a bit strange.
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« Reply #263 on: Thursday, April 23, 2020, 20:28:13 »

It wouldn't cap how much someone can earn (within reason). It's a cap on how a club, as members of a league that they help regulate, can spend their money. If they wanted to pay one player 80% of the cap, that's their shout.
Yes, so that acts as cap on that player doesn't it. I get it's more  of a sliding scale, but it's still a ceiling on how much someone can earn. Which was your objection. Whereas it seems what you actually object to is a fixed ceiling that applies across the board?
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« Reply #264 on: Thursday, April 23, 2020, 20:31:31 »

Interesting stuff on league restructuring. He seems to be suggesting that the National League at least (and possibly the leagues below in the pyramid) all be brought into the Football League to remove the stigma around "dropping out of the League", especially in a time when most National League sides are full time anyway. And, post-Covid, it's not unthinkable that some Football League sides might end up having to go semi-pro

There's been a strong argument for rebranding the National League/Conference as League 3 for some time.
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« Reply #265 on: Friday, April 24, 2020, 07:53:05 »

There's been a strong argument for rebranding the National League/Conference as League 3 for some time.

I think most of the clubs are full time down there now so not sure what the distinction really is any more ?
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« Reply #266 on: Friday, April 24, 2020, 08:49:55 »

There's been a strong argument for rebranding the National League/Conference as League 3 for some time.
The Plymouth guy seemed to be going further, the suggestion seemed to be to include National Leagues North and South too. Which makes sense because they are one league, just with two regionalised lower divisions. As horlock says, most of the NL is full time anyway, although I doubt that much of NLN and NLS are.
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« Reply #267 on: Friday, April 24, 2020, 08:55:24 »

Why the obsession with a South/North anything in this country? How about a West/East set up?
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« Reply #268 on: Friday, April 24, 2020, 08:58:56 »

Saw this as a good idea if games actually go to iFollow only.

Whatever game is streamed only have access to the home club’s stream. That way, at least the home club would benefit from away fans watching - just as they would if they were actually attending and paying gate money.
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« Reply #269 on: Friday, April 24, 2020, 09:16:37 »

Why the obsession with a South/North anything in this country?

Wild guess, the shape of the country?
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