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« Reply #225 on: Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 17:36:29 »

🤔A new twist in the 'how do we finish the football season' poser 💡
A Scottish junior league has decided on a method, and the third placed team is deemed to have won the league !
They averaged out the points per home game, and the away games separately, and then allocated this figure to the remaining home and away games to give a season average Total.

Seems the fairest way I can think of IF the decision is to end the season now and not play the remaining games. It would save a lot of the lower league teams from possible bankruptcy, as playing behind closed doors would cost them a fortune !

🤔Thoughts ? 🤔
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« Reply #226 on: Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 17:38:23 »

Th National League will probably be communicating with the EFL now to see how many/if any of their members are going to be able to move up. Barrow and Harrogate fans must be sweating.

The EFL will probably wait and see how many clubs make it through this before deciding on making any structural changes to the Football pyramid.

If anything, I think the leagues would stay in the same format but with perhaps less clubs if a certain amount fold (instead of replacing them National League sides).
Harrogate have a plastic pitch so would have to get rid of that to be allowed in the League
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« Reply #227 on: Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 17:38:41 »

How would that work for us if you worked it out?
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« Reply #228 on: Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 17:44:32 »

How would that work for us if you worked it out?
We’d finish just over 2 points clear, 18.5 points to Crewe’s 16.3 I think.
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« Reply #229 on: Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 18:07:00 »

How about east & west regionalisation?

Use the existing M5 & M6 motorways and the west coast rail route for the main transport arteries for one, and the M1 & east coast rail route for the other.

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« Reply #230 on: Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 20:34:13 »

Nation League from Oliver Holt


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« Reply #231 on: Thursday, April 23, 2020, 11:35:18 »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52394133
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« Reply #232 on: Thursday, April 23, 2020, 12:42:28 »

I don't like the idea of region as then you would potentially end up with lower crowds, some clubs would miss out on a visit from the 'bigger' teams and the crowds that would bring in.

The latest by the seems of it is the Mansfield chairman asking the FL to look at a wage cap for L1 & L2, surely it should be up to clubs to manage their own budgets, yes you get the likes of Mansfield and FGR trying to throw money at promotion but the other clubs in trouble is not because they have overspent on wages.

If there was a wage cap in place then it would stop clubs who want and are willing to pay that little bit more for a player that may stop them going down or help to get them promoted.

This type of thing sadly makes the championship and premier just a pipe dream, if clubs got there in future they would have no chance of competing as they was subject to a wage cap previous and that sort of cap would probably be nowhere near what you would need for players at that sort of level, and then again when / if they got relegated what happens.

I don't think anything can be decided though until it is known how this season will play out and when crowds will be allowed to return to football, no fans surely means less sponsorship and less advertising revenue.

THe FL need to decide how they will support football for the forseeable future.



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« Reply #233 on: Thursday, April 23, 2020, 12:47:28 »

The latest by the seems of it is the Mansfield chairman asking the FL to look at a wage cap for L1 & L2, surely it should be up to clubs to manage their own budgets, yes you get the likes of Mansfield and FGR trying to throw money at promotion but the other clubs in trouble is not because they have overspent on wages.
It's not just the Mansfield chairman, it's 37 of the 47 clubs in Leagues One and 2
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52398548

If there was a wage cap in place then it would stop clubs who want and are willing to pay that little bit more for a player that may stop them going down or help to get them promoted.

This type of thing sadly makes the championship and premier just a pipe dream, if clubs got there in future they would have no chance of competing as they was subject to a wage cap previous and that sort of cap would probably be nowhere near what you would need for players at that sort of level, and then again when / if they got relegated what happens.
Sorry but that's baldy flawed reasoning. For one thing, it would depend on where the wage cap was set and even if it was set at a level that meant some of their current squad weren't likely to be able to compete, then clubs would need to build a new squad, retaining some of their current players but losing those they didn't think would compete at the level above. You know, like they do now.

Without a wage cap, many more clubs are going to go to the wall. The only thing wrong with this proposal is that it doesn't include the Championship where the problem of excessive wages is much worse.
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« Reply #234 on: Thursday, April 23, 2020, 12:50:53 »

I'm all for a wage cap of sorts. If anything good comes about becasue of this virus - a wage cap might be one of them.
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« Reply #235 on: Thursday, April 23, 2020, 12:53:16 »

I'm all for a wage cap of sorts. If anything good comes about becasue of this virus - a wage cap might be one of them.
Ideally it should look something like this

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« Reply #236 on: Thursday, April 23, 2020, 13:02:19 »

Ideally it should look something like this



No, that's only if the leagues are regionalised and that's the D3 north wage cap.
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« Reply #237 on: Thursday, April 23, 2020, 13:03:46 »

It's not just the Mansfield chairman, it's 37 of the 47 clubs in Leagues One and 2
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52398548
Sorry but that's baldy flawed reasoning. For one thing, it would depend on where the wage cap was set and even if it was set at a level that meant some of their current squad weren't likely to be able to compete, then clubs would need to build a new squad, retaining some of their current players but losing those they didn't think would compete at the level above. You know, like they do now.

Without a wage cap, many more clubs are going to go to the wall. The only thing wrong with this proposal is that it doesn't include the Championship where the problem of excessive wages is much worse.
Wage caps will need to linked to turnover though surely. If you get someone like Forest or Leeds in the league with 30k crowds that have the turnover to pay more then they shouldn’t be restricted by the same cap as say Ecotricity FC.
The alternative is the cap gets set at some arbitrary figure like £10k per week and then it becomes pointless as any team spending that at this level currently is likely spending beyond their means.

Enforcing FFP and removing the equity doping loopholes sounds a better idea.
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« Reply #238 on: Thursday, April 23, 2020, 13:20:35 »

Time for transparent financials to be presented to an independent auditor every season. Wage caps based on a % of turnover and certain ‘financial doping methods’ specifically outlawed.

All backed up with an automatic points deduction with no appeal.
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« Reply #239 on: Thursday, April 23, 2020, 13:45:16 »

Why should footballers' earnings be capped? They're privately owned businesses and should be able to pay their employees whatever they want.

We already have a total wage cap in L2 as a % of turnover. That should be extended to the rest of the EFL, but you can't cap individuals' earnings.
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