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« Reply #3345 on: Monday, May 11, 2020, 12:55:51 »

There’s a few of these knocking about

https://mobile.twitter.com/MirrorMacca

Brilliant
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« Reply #3346 on: Monday, May 11, 2020, 13:04:53 »

so long as the clubhouse is shut.

Was hoping we could have couple of clubhouse pints after but that’s a non runner apparently
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« Reply #3347 on: Monday, May 11, 2020, 13:12:31 »

Was hoping we could have couple of clubhouse pints after but that’s a non runner apparently

That's what the big bag is for, cans, isn't it?  Drink as you play - sure, the 18th gets tricky as a result, and someone needs to drop you off an pick you up, but so long as they are in your household, jobs a goodun.
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« Reply #3348 on: Monday, May 11, 2020, 13:37:07 »

Going back to the South Korea cluster to do with Nightclubs, it raises some important questions for Western countries around what we would be willing to do to enable lock downs to be relaxed.  They identified 5,517 people who attended one of these clubs from 24th April to 6th May, which they can do because you have to give your details to be let in.  They have managed to contact more than 2,000 of them so far, and where the details maybe sketchy they are using Credit Card companies to track people down who spent money in the establishments and the Police force.  That's some pretty big invasion of privacy issues for Western countries, would people accept it?
Tree club in Swindon requires ID to be shown & face pic taken to allow entry. That's no problem, but my flared trousers have been an issue.
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« Reply #3349 on: Monday, May 11, 2020, 13:37:21 »

Good news for you golfers and tennis players.  Despite what Johnson said yesterday and Raab today about playing sports like tennis and golf but ONLY with members of your own household.  The official guidance has been published and actually says:

"use outdoor sports courts or facilities, such as a tennis or basketball court, or golf course – with members of your household, or one other person while staying 2 metres apart”

A subtle but significant difference
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« Reply #3350 on: Monday, May 11, 2020, 22:48:34 »

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/883784/COVID19_Epidemiological_Summary_w19_FINAL.pdf

can this be pinned somewhere weekly? these are the stats that matter and show exactly where we are and why things are being reduced. sack off that daily briefing and inane media questions and spend a few hours running through this data. brilliant read
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« Reply #3351 on: Tuesday, May 12, 2020, 09:49:51 »

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/883784/COVID19_Epidemiological_Summary_w19_FINAL.pdf

can this be pinned somewhere weekly? these are the stats that matter and show exactly where we are and why things are being reduced. sack off that daily briefing and inane media questions and spend a few hours running through this data. brilliant read
It is, as are the ONS weekly updates, although both suffer from a necessary time lag, but that is made up for in the quality of the information being presented. You still need media questions though as while this is, as you say, quality information, it's not in a format that will be readily accessible to most so needs interpretation, which is part of what the media are for. And the data itself raises questions, for example, why deaths are so high in care homes, as we've touched on previously, that ministers should be held to account for.
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« Reply #3352 on: Tuesday, May 12, 2020, 09:56:28 »

FT have run their analysis on the latest ONS stats. Bearing in mind those stats lag by a week or so, horrifyingly they now show that over 50,000 people have died during the Covid19 outbreak in the UK than would usually be the case i.e. excess mortality which the govt and their chief scientific advisers accept is the only meaningful way of measuring the impact of the pandemic and the response to it


https://twitter.com/ChrisGiles_/status/1260147122369892352

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending1may2020#deaths-registered-in-the-uk

On the upside (insofar as you can have an upside for 50,000 people dying) the data does show that deaths have passed the peak and are continuing to fall.
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« Reply #3353 on: Tuesday, May 12, 2020, 10:32:40 »

I'll be playing golf with my son this weekend.

The common sense approach to the virus will backfire though I think due to people's stupidity and selfishness.  The police's job is now impossible. It was hard enough before the changes. All about £££ isn't it really?
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« Reply #3354 on: Tuesday, May 12, 2020, 11:06:58 »

Trouble is, they had to scare the living shits out of people in the beginning to accept a lockdown - now many are too scared to go back work, kids to school, use public transport etc.
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« Reply #3355 on: Tuesday, May 12, 2020, 11:13:59 »

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/victoria-station-ticket-office-worker-coronavirus-spat-a4437976.html

Jesus!
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« Reply #3356 on: Tuesday, May 12, 2020, 11:26:01 »

FT have run their analysis on the latest ONS stats. Bearing in mind those stats lag by a week or so, horrifyingly they now show that over 50,000 people have died during the Covid19 outbreak in the UK than would usually be the case i.e. excess mortality which the govt and their chief scientific advisers accept is the only meaningful way of measuring the impact of the pandemic and the response to it


https://twitter.com/ChrisGiles_/status/1260147122369892352

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/bulletins/deathsregisteredweeklyinenglandandwalesprovisional/weekending1may2020#deaths-registered-in-the-uk

On the upside (insofar as you can have an upside for 50,000 people dying) the data does show that deaths have passed the peak and are continuing to fall.

Hang on a minute. Is that a statistic that can be used to present the government in a good light, if it is then its absolutely viable and justified, however, if it shows them in a bad light its a nonsense to use statistics?

Have I got that right, trying to be faithful and positive?
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« Reply #3357 on: Tuesday, May 12, 2020, 11:26:37 »

I'll be playing golf with my son this weekend.


Not got any clubs?
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« Reply #3358 on: Tuesday, May 12, 2020, 11:31:31 »

Sunak's just announced furlough being extended until October, keeping at 80% too. No changes to the scheme until July, but will see some phasing out in July, August, Sept. One of the things the govt have got right in this
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« Reply #3359 on: Tuesday, May 12, 2020, 11:36:34 »

Sunak's just announced furlough being extended until October, keeping at 80% too. No changes to the scheme until July, but will see some phasing out in July, August, Sept. One of the things the govt have got right in this

Well done to the Government for this.  Unlike the health side of the crisis, I think they've done pretty damn well with the economic side and it will definitely ease a lot of people's money worries.

Strangely, the main criticism seems to be coming from the right wing supporters who feel that extending furlough is somehow giving people something for nothing.
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