Coronavirus

[Jimmy HaveHave]

Hasn't it though?

Surely the point is to help manage it rather than eradicate it? 'Flatten the curve', not eradicate the curve, at least until a vaccine/treatment comes along. How many more people would have died if it were not for the lockdown? (We don't know for sure, but the answer is likely to be approximately a fuck ton)

Whether or not we should lockdown again, however, is something that I cannot answer. We need to manage the virus, but people also need money.

It's such a hard one to call and I'm intrigued how Italy, France & Spain are coping at the moment

[Nomoreheroes]

I seem to recall that Small Pox is the only virus to be eradicated isn't it? All others are 'managed'.

[RobertT]

Smallpox has essentially been eradicated, yes.  No new cases reported in over 70 years.

[Flashheart]

And now Trump's telling people to not be afraid of the virus.

[Jimmy HaveHave]

Smallpox has essentially been eradicated, yes.  No new cases reported in over 70 years.

1978 was the last reportedl deaths In Birmingham

[RobertT]

Oops - yep, my first Google returned the North America statement I think.  The UK one was not a naturally occurring one.  Ironically, I think irony, the last person to have contracted it naturally was in 1977 - he survived but died in 2013 of Malaria, while supporting Polio eradication work!  Poor sod.

Of course, that's all from a quick google as well, so someone will let me know it's all wrong :-)

[RobertT]

And now Trump's telling people to not be afraid of the virus.

That was to be expected.

[Jimmy HaveHave]

Oops - yep, my first Google returned the North America statement I think.  The UK one was not a naturally occurring one.  Ironically, I think irony, the last person to have contracted it naturally was in 1977 - he survived but died in 2013 of Malaria, while supporting Polio eradication work!  Poor sod.

Of course, that's all from a quick google as well, so someone will let me know it's all wrong :-)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-45101091
I can remember going to Walsall around 1978 and Swindon fans were getting chucked out by the police for taunting the home fans with the words smallpox

[theakston2k]

Hasn't it though?

Surely the point is to help manage it rather than eradicate it? 'Flatten the curve', not eradicate the curve, at least until a vaccine/treatment comes along. How many more people would have died if it were not for the lockdown? (We don't know for sure, but the answer is likely to be approximately a fuck ton)

Whether or not we should lockdown again, however, is something that I cannot answer. We need to manage the virus, but people also need money.

It’s bought time but I don’t think it’s delivered what was promised and that’s by most governments not just the U.K. Everywhere seems to be descending into exponential growth again and there still doesn’t seem to be a cohesive strategy or systems in place to combat it. All the goodwill has been spent in the first lockdown, going back into a full lockdown because they don’t know what else to do shouldn’t be an option. It would be getting to the stage where they’d need to think about some kind of referendum on whether people will accept another lockdown as people shouldn’t basically become prisoners because of the combined failures of the establishment.

[RobertT]

I know it's smaller, but New Zealand has done a pretty good job thus far.  Their reaction to the small outbreak they had is the model others could probably have taken - the fact we haven't suggests there is little hope we ever will.

[tans]

Fucking hell

[4D]

I'm waiting for the mug 

[Simon Pieman]

Had this notification pop up this morning. Just another thing to add to the confusion.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-54389083

[Flashheart]

Had this notification pop up this morning. Just another thing to add to the confusion.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-54389083

Somebody else's fault, again.

The alerts are generated by the underlying Apple and Google framework rather than the app itself,

[Batch]

sounds like it's already been fixed in the framework..