Coronavirus

[pauld]

There seems to be a lot in the press today as to whether certain stores will or will not stop people entering without a face mask. The question should not be whether they will or won't - rather (unless you are in the exemption groups) why on earth would you try to go without a mask when you know it is a requirement? I know it might not look 'normal' or 'cool' but even if there is a slight chance masks may stop the spread, then people should want to do what they can and not see it as a imposition

Exactly so. I assume the same stores will be fine if I wander in bollock naked then?

[Simon Pieman]

There seems to be a lot in the press today as to whether certain stores will or will not stop people entering without a face mask. The question should not be whether they will or won't - rather (unless you are in the exemption groups) why on earth would you try to go without a mask when you know it is a requirement? I know it might not look 'normal' or 'cool' but even if there is a slight chance masks may stop the spread, then people should want to do what they can and not see it as a imposition

I went to Aldi this morning and there was a greater proportion of shoppers wearing face coverings than I've typically seen, I'd say around 50%. However, if I hadn't been wearing a face covering to shops since lockdown, I would have wannted to trial today before it becomes mandatory and in a way I'm surprised half of the shop hadn't thought of this, but in another I'm not.

I feel for the shop staff tomorrow as I've no doubt there are going to be plenty of arguments with customers, particularly with shops being busier at the weekend.

[horlock07]

And 4 established very busy venues 2 in Hull and 2 in Manchester have announced their closure today.  All this shit is just going to accelerate.

In a small ray of light the two Manchester venues will continue under new ownership.

https://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/news/live-music-will-lift-uk-economy-says-deaf-institute-gorilla-saviour/

[RobertT]

Exactly so. I assume the same stores will be fine if I wander in bollock naked then?

I presume there will be organised protests of this nature

[Panda Paws]

I feel for the shop staff tomorrow as I've no doubt there are going to be plenty of arguments with customers, particularly with shops being busier at the weekend.

Shouldn't be. It's not the shop staff's job to enforce and I'm sure most retailers will be saying exactly that.

[RobertT]

https://www.foxnews.com/health/us-deaths-during-coronavirus-outbreak-period-were-179k-higher-usual-report

Similar to the UK in terms of overall Excess Deaths being higher than the total attributed to the Virus itself, which goes to show the impact of a virus on a society (regardless of any reporting inaccuracies around cause).

[Arriba]

Mask wearing rules and regs released less than 12 hours before it becomes mandatory. You couldn't make this ineptitude up.

[tans]

Spain added to the quarantine list as of midnight

[Batch]

I am absolutely gutted.

going to lose holiday and the money spent on it 😭 can't quarentine for 14 days so can't go

[Jimmy HaveHave]

I am absolutely gutted.

going to lose holiday and the money spent on it 😭 can't quarentine for 14 days so can't go

That's really poor and no consideration to the thousands like that will have lost money

[Batch]

is what it is. to say we can't go is a slight exaggeration. we could. son then misses GCSE results/college enrolement and Mrs B is a teacher that needs to get into school to prep classroom.

we'll have to see if the hotel will move dates for us (doubt it) and no chance Ryanair will do anything.

holiday insurance has a pandemic clause in it. we booked pre-covid and didn't even think to check on such a clause.
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to say the canaries have had a surge is a bit misleading. 144 active cases across all Islands

but they are bound to be treated the same as mainland spain.

[Jimmy HaveHave]

is what it is. to say we can't go is a slight exaggeration. we could. son then misses GCSE results/college enrolement and Mrs B is a teacher that needs to get into school to prep classroom.

we'll have to see if the hotel will move dates for us (doubt it) and no chance Ryanair will do anything.

holiday insurance has a pandemic clause in it. we booked pre-covid and didn't even think to check on such a clause.
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to say the canaries have had a surge is a bit misleading. 144 active cases across all Islands

but they are bound to be treated the same as mainland spain.

I feel for you and your family and it seems unfair that you save for months and through no thought of your own end up with nothing unless they can move the dates I guess until next year

[Bob's Orange]

is what it is. to say we can't go is a slight exaggeration. we could. son then misses GCSE results/college enrolement and Mrs B is a teacher that needs to get into school to prep classroom.

we'll have to see if the hotel will move dates for us (doubt it) and no chance Ryanair will do anything.

holiday insurance has a pandemic clause in it. we booked pre-covid and didn't even think to check on such a clause.
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to say the canaries have had a surge is a bit misleading. 144 active cases across all Islands

but they are bound to be treated the same as mainland spain.

That’s really shit Batch. So frustrating the timing as well. Hope you somehow can manage some kind of recompense or an acceptable alternative as none of this is your fault.

[Nomoreheroes]

Sorry guys, but there's a pandemic out there (in the world). I'm in the same boat, having a holiday to Spain booked for over a year at the end of August.

[Batch]

yeah I get the reasoning to an extent.

I just see no evidence of increased risk in traveling to the canaries compared to France

still, can't do much