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« Reply #5190 on: Thursday, July 16, 2020, 11:19:36 »

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« Reply #5191 on: Thursday, July 16, 2020, 11:24:45 »

Hope things look up soon, BBC reporting it now.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-53428307
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« Reply #5192 on: Thursday, July 16, 2020, 15:12:08 »

According to the Today programme this morning, there are 23 vaccines currently undergoing clinical trials, with a further 140 at the (earlier) lab trials stage. We need 2 or 3 of these to work, so that seems hopeful.
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« Reply #5193 on: Thursday, July 16, 2020, 15:18:29 »

According to the Today programme this morning, there are 23 vaccines currently undergoing clinical trials,

Including, its being suggested, some in China where the staff are being forced to test it upon themselves.
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« Reply #5194 on: Thursday, July 16, 2020, 16:17:06 »

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jul/15/borderline-sociopath-boris-johnson-misjudges-mood-chamber-pmqs
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« Reply #5195 on: Thursday, July 16, 2020, 16:59:13 »

According to the Today programme this morning, there are 23 vaccines currently undergoing clinical trials, with a further 140 at the (earlier) lab trials stage. We need 2 or 3 of these to work, so that seems hopeful.

They're already producing millions of vials, and most vaccine candidates are in Phase 2 or even Phase 3 trials. It'll probably be rushed, but if there's even a hint of efficacy then I expect them to be in circulation within months.
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« Reply #5196 on: Thursday, July 16, 2020, 18:24:07 »

Hope things look up soon, BBC reporting it now.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-53428307

And 4 established very busy venues 2 in Hull and 2 in Manchester have announced their closure today.  All this shit is just going to accelerate.
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« Reply #5197 on: Thursday, July 16, 2020, 18:59:51 »

And 4 established very busy venues 2 in Hull and 2 in Manchester have announced their closure today.  All this shit is just going to accelerate.



Really shocked (well not really considering) and saddened about the Deaf Institute in Manc and especially the Welly in Hull. Two great venues. Let us hope they and any other venues can re open again sometime in the future.

As you say mate, at the moment it will just snowball. With no venues, there is no circuit. Bloody sad times. One of the few things many turn to in times of difficulty is the arts.

What is bloody annoying is someone can now go inside a pub and drunkenly, virally shed all over others, yet we can't perform to an audience, even if preventative measures are in place. Treatment of creative arts and entertainment industry has been the most negligent of nearly all sectors during this pandemic.

If Wallace Hartley was given licence to keep playing as the Titanic sank, then it is not beyond the realms of possibility to make safe and let the bloody music play.
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« Reply #5198 on: Thursday, July 16, 2020, 19:37:23 »

Patrick Vallance giving evidence to the Commons Health Select Committee told the committee that the advice from SAGE was to lockdown on March 16th, a full week before we actually went into lockdown. That may only seem a small delay but due to the exponential nature of viral spread, Johnson's dithering cost tens of thousands of lives. Absolutely criminal.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-sage-urged-govt-to-lockdown-a-week-earlier-uks-chief-scientific-adviser-says-12029956
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« Reply #5199 on: Thursday, July 16, 2020, 20:09:49 »



What is bloody annoying is someone can now go inside a pub and drunkenly, virally shed all over others, yet we can't perform to an audience, even if preventative measures are in place. Treatment of creative arts and entertainment industry has been the most negligent of nearly all sectors during this pandemic.



Went for a half for the first time this evening.  Not much social distancing going on.
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« Reply #5200 on: Thursday, July 16, 2020, 21:13:21 »

The Governor of Georgia seems intent on challenging Trump at being Trump.  After opening up before hitting any of the markers originally set, and somehow getting lambasted by Trump for pushing too quickly, several weeks later he's decided the best course of action to stop outbreaks is to ban Cities or Counties from enforcing mask wearing!  This guy, Brian Kemp, did give fair warning about his approach to life though.  In his campaign ad's he had one where he held a rifle while showing his daughters boyfriend, in an attempt at humour about taking care of his daughter.



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« Reply #5201 on: Thursday, July 16, 2020, 21:20:38 »

Basically then, if you don like his approach to gun laws and the benefits that the 2nd Amendment brings to gun toters (and responsible gun owners)...heĺl just shoot you?!

Lovely bloke.


Is meant as humour but it full of as much clean cut cringe as a Barry Scott advert. I was half expecting Kemp to finish with '...and now for my old favourite, the 2p trick'
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« Reply #5202 on: Friday, July 17, 2020, 06:30:13 »

Don't bother looking at deaths now as it will never be zero in England.

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/why-no-one-can-ever-recover-from-covid-19-in-england-a-statistical-anomaly/

"Anyone who has tested COVID positive but subsequently died at a later date of any cause will be included on the PHE COVID death figures."

It's OK. Partial, inhomogeneous and basically inadequate data from various sources is fine if it facilitates a pop or two at the government from those who didn't vote for it and/or don't want it.
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« Reply #5203 on: Friday, July 17, 2020, 08:12:27 »

Don't bother looking at deaths now as it will never be zero in England.

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/why-no-one-can-ever-recover-from-covid-19-in-england-a-statistical-anomaly/

"Anyone who has tested COVID positive but subsequently died at a later date of any cause will be included on the PHE COVID death figures."

It's OK. Partial, inhomogeneous and basically inadequate data from various sources is fine if it facilitates a pop or two at the government from those who didn't vote for it and/or don't want it.

Which is why I don't believe for one second that there's any value in comparing England to anywhere else, including within the UK.

The media have a huge role to play in this too - fear sells.
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« Reply #5204 on: Friday, July 17, 2020, 08:34:12 »

Don't bother looking at deaths now as it will never be zero in England.

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/why-no-one-can-ever-recover-from-covid-19-in-england-a-statistical-anomaly/

"Anyone who has tested COVID positive but subsequently died at a later date of any cause will be included on the PHE COVID death figures."

It's OK. Partial, inhomogeneous and basically inadequate data from various sources is fine if it facilitates a pop or two at the government from those who didn't vote for it and/or don't want it.

If that's true then of course that is concerning but to me, these sentances are a bit concerning as to the potential accuracy of the piece;

'Here, it ""SEEMS"" that PHE regularly looks for people on the NHS database who have ever tested positive, and simply checks to see if they are still alive or not. PHE does not appear to consider how long ago the COVID test result was, nor whether the person has been successfully treated in hospital and discharged to the community. Anyone who has tested COVID positive but subsequently died at a later date of any cause will be included on the PHE COVID death figures.'

Disclaimer:  the article has not been peer-reviewed; it should not replace individual clinical judgement, and the sources cited should be checked. The views expressed in this commentary represent the views of the authors and not necessarily those of the host institution, the NHS, the NIHR, or the Department of Health and Social Care. The views are not a substitute
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