Coronavirus

[Bogus Dave]

Condoms would still stop a second baby

[pauld]

Condoms would still stop a second baby

Neatly put.

Meanwhile, Tory activists are apparently ripping up their membership cards in protest against the mask ruling

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservative-activists-membership-cards-mandatory-face-mask-a9617866.html

It's almost as if they're really selfish and stupid isn't it?

EDIT: to be clear, I'm referring to the Tory activists doing this, not all Tory activists

[RobertT]

Again, I simply don't understand the hostility towards face masks.  Nobody gets all protesty when the Govt enforces the wearing of pants, well, very few.  Someones bits are far less likely to cause me harm than the germs/virus coming out of their mouth.  Fuck it, makes more sense to enforce mask wearing and let everyone flaunt their genitalia if they so wish, that would give them real freedom.

[Bob's Orange]

Again, I simply don't understand the hostility towards face masks.  Nobody gets all protesty when the Govt enforces the wearing of pants, well, very few.  Someones bits are far less likely to cause me harm than the germs/virus coming out of their mouth.  Fuck it, makes more sense to enforce mask wearing and let everyone flaunt their genitalia if they so wish, that would give them real freedom.

Some bullshit about people's freedom I suspect. Completely agree with you, if I have to wear a mask to protect myself and others then I'll do it, its not like you are being asked to go everywhere with a 10 inch dildo stuck inside your anus or to carry a cactus in each hand or whatever.

People are such dicks sometimes.

[horlock07]

Neatly put.

Meanwhile, Tory activists are apparently ripping up their membership cards in protest against the mask ruling

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservative-activists-membership-cards-mandatory-face-mask-a9617866.html

It's almost as if they're really selfish and stupid isn't it?

Imagine seeing what the Tories have done for the last decade, and thinking that them making me wear a mask to help protect vulnerable people is just that little bit too far and time to make a fuss!

Funny that they have been fairly silent as the death toll has rose but suddenly they are clutching their pearls now.

Christ, almost 2,500 children have been admitted to hospital with malnutrition in the first six months of the year, in the 6th richest country in the world and they are silent on that.

I wonder whether its the fact that wearing a mask is for the benefit of others that upsets them so much?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/14/boris-johnson-face-coverings-mask-gove-cummings

[Ardiles]

There are echoes of the far right libertarian nonsense that has infected US politics, with devastating results.  It's the 'no one tells me how to live, all government is evil' mentality that focuses on personal 'freedom' to do what the fuck you like, without reference to the consequences then faced by wider society.  Sad to see that this thinking is becoming increasingly legitimised in the UK now also (although not to the same degree, thankfully).

[horlock07]

What the hell has he got in his hair?

https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1283044506275807233?s=20

Not often agree with Mancock, but his barely concealed giggle said it all in this case.

[Abrahammer]

How’s he going to buy his gammon?

[BambooToTheFuture]

I took issue with the face mask  revelation/deflection. Not because of having to wear one. Like others, I shall do if and when required to do so. My issue lay with the "why now?" when a good chunk of damage has already happened. It's fucking hypocrisy to see BoJo telling people in the midst of a pandemic;

 'I will continue to shake hands with people, in fact I visited a hospital with Coronavirus patients andI shook everyone's hands...it's business as usual.'

This cunt, has the audacity to misinform us, ignorantly so and is now showing Peter to the Wolf, while trying to look cool doing the "elbow tap".

I understand the prevention element of wearing a mask and as said above have no issue having to wear one. It's more the raft of continued bullshit from this government. We really shouldn't have to put up with and accept this level of shit show. It's fucking awful. If ever there was a time the general public and business needed to lean on their government for some crystal clear guidelines and legislation, the last few months would've been it.

They failed, horribly. Yet I don't think they genuinely care because we have a split/divided society. One half won't do anything and the other half just rollover. There's literally no central balance. It's very reflective of Government and until recently, Labour's unwillingness to shift anywhere near to the centreground again. It nearly destroyed them. But the Tories are responsible for the handling of this, for certain.

[donkey]

Neatly put.

Meanwhile, Tory activists are apparently ripping up their membership cards in protest against the mask ruling

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/conservative-activists-membership-cards-mandatory-face-mask-a9617866.html

It's almost as if they're really selfish and stupid isn't it?

EDIT: to be clear, I'm referring to the Tory activists doing this, not all Tory activists

I saw this on Facebook and thought it was Rochdale Herald

[JBZ]

Yes - there has been flip flopping but I don't understand why wearing something on your face is so problematic. To get into the habit, I have already started wearing one - particularly as it looks like they will be required in offices at some point in the near future.

[Berniman]

There are always going to be the idiots that refuse to do things because the government are enforcing it, nothing you will ever be able to do about that..  In the same way that when seat belts were introduced there were those that refused to wear them until they did.. just let them continue to spout off while in the mean time go back to that good old fashioned things that is in limited supply these days - Common Sense, it's not hard..

Those that are saying "why wait a week" while not wearing a face mask now are not helping..  if you have a level of common sense you can wear a mask now in the right circumstance, the government have never said you can't.  Sometimes I think that people look for every excuse to get outraged with the instructions being given.

Just stop getting outraged with the date and start/continue to use common sense.  Personally, i will follow the rules set out by the government as a minimum, but will also make my own mind up based on my circumstance and those around me as to whether I feel a face mask is required in any certain circumstance before we reach that date - as long as my decision making doesn't break any rules/laws then it can only help.

There will always be idiots out there but there is not much I can do about that, apart from spout off on a forum which is 80% bollocks..  The more people that use common sense, the better, simples..

[horlock07]

particularly as it looks like they will be required in offices at some point in the near future.

They won't be Mancock said so, https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newslondon/matt-hancock-insists-face-masks-wont-be-compulsory-in-offices-amid-further-confusion-on-government-guidance/ar-BB16KHa4 although on past record based on that I imagine they will be required in offices within the next fortnight.

[JBZ]

They won't be Mancock said so, https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newslondon/matt-hancock-insists-face-masks-wont-be-compulsory-in-offices-amid-further-confusion-on-government-guidance/ar-BB16KHa4 although on past record based on that I imagine they will be required in offices within the next fortnight.

I think we can proceed on the basis that they will be required. 

[horlock07]

I think we can proceed on the basis that they will be required. 

Well I won't be wearing one in my office!