Coronavirus

[mystical_goat]

That’s nothing. Wait till the inquest. There will be more finger pointing than a road side Italian traffic controller.

Yeah, those famously thorough and impactful inquests.

[StfcRusty]

Hopefully you’re right. Need him to orchestrate our departure deal from the EUSSR. They’re in deep shit.

LL is going to be disappointed when he next reads his beloved Daily Mail. When a Tory Govt is even being wholly bashed by the Mail online comments, you know it must be bad ...

[Legends-Lounge]

Yeah, those famously thorough and impactful inquests.

Cynical Goat. You know lessons will be learnt.

[pauld]

When you have a government that doesn't even feel the need to pretend to tell the truth any more and that believes the laws don't apply to it and it's chosen few favourites, and a substantial section of the population are willing to excuse and justify that, then you are at the start of the conditions needed for a dictatorship.

[Batch]

I've got a sneaking feeling we're all being played once again by the dupesters. Cummings is a very clever operator.

Except the evidence as it is, shows he's pretty thick really

or merely extremely arrogant.

[Batch]

That’s nothing. Wait till the inquest. There will be more finger pointing than a road side Italian traffic controller.

Yeah, those famously thorough and impactful inquests.

they'll publish the Russia report at an appropriate time. have patience ffs

[mystical_goat]

 

[pauld]

I've got a sneaking feeling we're all being played once again by the dupesters. Cummings is a very clever operator.

If you are right, I think Dr Andy Hill has it

"Stand by Cummings.
Anger the public.
Wait for people to go "Well if they can do it, so will I."
Get the herd immunity strategy you always wanted.
Fast forward the second spike to the summer.
Avoid collapse of NHS this winter.
Celebrate it as a success."

https://twitter.com/andyhill1/status/1264649259644645376

[Ardiles]

I’m going to predict further evidence drops tonight or later in the week. There will be photo evidence via ANPR or just taken by a member of the public. The Mirror and Guardian just wanting to reel Johnson in to destroy his credibility before dropping the next bomb.

I hope I’m right. You’ve got to hope that continual liars get caught eventually.

I'm not sure.  My gut feeling, in fact, is that Cummings may not have made the 2nd trip at all.  If he had, Johnson would be rather unlikely to have risked backing him this afternoon...only then for everything to blow up again when the evidence came out.  Johnson has hung his coat on Cummings' peg.  If Cummings does now go down, it will damage Johnson himself.  My suspicion is that the retired chemistry teacher may have his wires crossed.  Just my hunch.

[Batch]

^^^ditto^^^

though did Johnson address that directly in the briefing earlier. I read he dodged the question but didn't see it myself

[Arriba]

Said to the Mrs as we walked around Coate Water today that lockdown was over. This was before Boris had his say. Loads of groups of people together there. People getting close to us without a care. Hopefully won't come to anything and we're past the worst but can't help but think a second wave is likely.

[singingiiiffy]

Let's play devils advocate- you have a 4 yr old autistic son and both parents have c19. do you stay at home or do you get family to come to you/ go to them.

this question only applies to a single visit and if evidence of multiple appear then it doesnt apply unless we know why. just interested to see what people would have done

[StfcRusty]

Let's play devils advocate- you have a 4 yr old autistic son and both parents have c19. do you stay at home or do you get family to come to you/ go to them.

this question only applies to a single visit and if evidence of multiple appear then it doesnt apply unless we know why. just interested to see what people would have done

But add the further facts that Cumming's wife's sister lives in London.  Cumming's closest aide lives 2 streets away.  At the time of the journey, Cummings did not have any symptoms.

I don't know enough about autistic children to answer that other than the ones I do know, do not handle change well.
In Cummings position, I would have stayed at home knowing family and an aid was close by to drop in food/medicine

[Saxondale]

He's lost the support of the daily mail.  I didnt think that was possible.  Jesus.

[smalltowngypsymassacre]

Said to the Mrs as we walked around Coate Water today that lockdown was over. This was before Boris had his say. Loads of groups of people together there. People getting close to us without a care. Hopefully won't come to anything and we're past the worst but can't help but think a second wave is likely.

Further evidence that lockdown is over is the swarm of photographers crawling over each other outside Cummings house this morning. If they aren't each spoken to by the police and possibly fined, I'd say the precedent has been set for the rest of us