Work/Dress shirts

[horlock07]

Only to be expected.

It reflects the general lurch to the right... you can only get cheap shirts from the likes of M and S and H and M, because of the exploitation of Bangladeshi workers, who have been involved recently in strikes and protests to improve wages and conditions, a factory fell down killing 2,500 workers.

It didn't kill 2,500 workers, I thought you only traded in FACTS?

Edit - and before you take a leap onto the virtuous high ground and try to twist this and suggest the above in some manner proves that I condone far east factory conditions, that is not what I said. However, making vastly inflated claims to try and justify some manner of contrived political point helps no one, and could be considered quite morally dubious.

[Bob's Orange]

There were around 2,500 non-fatal injuries and 1,134 deaths according to Wiki. Still absolutely shocking nonetheless.

[horlock07]

There were around 2,500 non-fatal injuries and 1,134 deaths according to Wiki. Still absolutely shocking nonetheless.

Oh completely, the one interesting thing that came on the back of it was that the same factory was servicing both top end and bottom end retailers and on the whole it was the bottom end ones that reacted better to what happened and did more for the victims.

So what is morally worse, buying a shirt for £2 wholesale and flogging for £10, or buying a shirt for £2 wholesale and flogging for £80.

[Reg Smeeton]

It didn't kill 2,500 workers, I thought you only traded in FACTS?

Edit - and before you take a leap onto the virtuous high ground and try to twist this and suggest the above in some manner proves that I condone far east factory conditions, that is not what I said. However, making vastly inflated claims to try and justify some manner of contrived political point helps no one, and could be considered quite morally dubious.

Fair enough about 1100 killed 2500 injured.... nevertheless the point that conditions for Bangla workers are grim and will continue to be so as long as consumers casually acquiese in their exploitation holds.

[horlock07]

Fair enough about 1100 killed 2500 injured.... nevertheless the point that conditions for Bangla workers are grim and will continue to be so as long as consumers casually acquiese in their exploitation holds.

Agreed, still has sweet fanny adams to do with a lurch to the right!

[Flashheart]

My misses got me 2 new shirts at the weekend. Does this mean I'm a Nazi?

[The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey]

‘It’s lampshade time’

For the uninitiated

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[4D]

Fair enough about 1100 killed 2500 injured.... nevertheless the point that conditions for Bangla workers are grim and will continue to be so as long as consumers casually acquiese in their exploitation holds.

It's easy to blame the West Reg, most people do  what would happen to those workers if nobody bought the product?

[swindonmaniac]

But why? They are bloody irritating!

The shirts or the Kids .     

[pauld]

My misses got me 2 new shirts at the weekend. Does this mean I'm a Nazi?

Are they Hugo Boss shirts?

[The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey]

Or Brown or Black?

[Flashheart]

One is brown.

[horlock07]

One is brown.

I believe that makes you SA scum?

[Reg Smeeton]

It's easy to blame the West Reg, most people do  what would happen to those workers if nobody bought the product?

In the 60's and 70's, a more radical time, there was a product boycott of South Africa, which included British banks and companies who invested heavily in SA. It eventually helped bring down the apartheid system. 

If such a boycott of exploiters of fellow Bangla workers could be organised here then maybe their pay and conditions  could be improved.   However one of the symptoms of the rightward drift is more individualism and less collectivism, hence it's now down to individuals whether they follow an ethical lifestyle, and what that might mean for their decisions.

[pauld]

Was it Bob's Orange who asked the other day about "Virtue Signalling" and what it meant? Just read the derailing of this thread. And PP, you're right, it's not always the right who use the term, I now realise.