The Reg Smeeton Memorial Community Engagement Thread

[Reg Smeeton]

There isn't a problem. Well behaved kids? see high achievement and good behaviour.

Your assuming that schools don't pay for the tickets themselves and if they don't it really doesn't matter, it is for the schools to distribute how they wish and on the criteria and incentive that they create. It seems like your out of touch with the current school system.

glad you can see the justification. you could have ended it there instead of trying to find a but and a new issue. 

Fair enough then it's up to schools to divvy out tickets as seen fit.... by your understanding if receiving a batch of tickets , would you regard that as close co-operation?

[singingiiiffy]

Fair enough then it's up to schools to divvy out tickets as seen fit.... by your understanding if receiving a batch of tickets , would you regard that as close co-operation community engagement?

edited within the context of your own thread. yes
its a strange question to ask really as it obviously requires co-operation to get tickets regularly sourced and distributed.

[BambooToTheFuture]

Yes it does get bloody tedious...

So by your own admission, this IS "Community Engagement", is it not? Surely after a period of possibly zero, some is a good start and a pathway to continued engagement in the future?

"Proper engagement" is purely an opinion, relative to one's expectations (like me saying Town should be an upper L1 (Div3) club). You of course can gage where "proper" might be, based on past exploits but the current incumbents can't change the past - yet they can (and are) making steps to influence an engaged future.

The importance of the clubs social media plays a bigger role in this than many might appreciate. It is integral to marketing today and those who adapt to change often are the ones who succeed. Those who stand still to newer angles and potential innovation get left behind. A simple example would be "Goal GIFs" (look them up). Many hated them at first but a lot of kids love them. GIFs are increasingly being used to communicate more than emojis/smileys. You can agree/disagree with this concept but I revert back to the ability to accept change.

However, engagement in a stand alone is happening and we are seeing small notches of progress from it. Long may it continue and good to see you do acknowledge it, even if in a somewhat passive and negative way.

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Just in case you conveniently missed it. FAO: Reg

[Reg Smeeton]

edited within the context of your own thread. yes
its a strange question to ask really as it obviously requires co-operation to get tickets regularly sourced and distributed.

No, because the OP made by Rob was about getting a close relationship with nearby schools.  

My take on what that means is predicated by the old Study Centre, which to me was a close relationship.... 2 classrooms, one a permanent fixture the other in the Cecil Green Suite, flexible, staffed by specialists and teachers in IT and control technology and robotics.  This enabled educational and wider social work inter and intra schools, to which the club could give access to players and staff on site, when convenient.

It also enabled things like summer courses, whereby the SC would link with FiTC, to provide physical activities as well as more techy stuff, and take in Town pre season training sessions.

Nothing like that now....

[singingiiiffy]

No, because the OP made by Rob was about getting a close relationship with nearby schools. 

My take on what that means is predicated by the old Study Centre, which to me was a close relationship.... 2 classrooms, one a permanent fixture the other in the Cecil Green Suite, flexible, staffed by specialists and teachers in IT and control technology and robotics.  This enabled educational and wider social work inter and intra schools, to which the club could give access to players and staff on site, when convenient.

It also enabled things like summer courses, whereby the SC would link with FiTC, to provide physical activities as well as more techy stuff, and take in Town pre season training sessions.

Nothing like that now....

its really hard to know what you want.

Let's get this clear.... a while back I raised the point that the links between club and fans for a number of reasons had become broken.

Am I interested in seeing how this fan interaction is progressing.... yes.

I thought that this was why it was created. and links have been established for 15 pages. the thread title is community engagement but really it should be "why hasn't the club opened a study centre like the old days"

[Reg Smeeton]

its really hard to know what you want.

I thought that this was why it was created. and links have been established for 15 pages. the thread title is community engagement but really it should be "why hasn't the club opened a study centre like the old days"

Fan and community engagement come in many forms, and merit their own sub debates..... this one happens to be about interactions with schools.

I know why the Study Centre closed.... chopped off by Tory austerity.  I don't expect to see any money spent on such a national initaitive again under the present government.

[suttonred]

JUST FUCKING STOP

[ron dodgers]

don't you fucking dare, I love this

[Ginginho]

Fuckin' hell, imagine if Reg was Alexa?

[horlock07]

As usual you miss the point.... EDUCATIONAL CONTEXT

The English system has become increasingly prescriptive over a number of years.... if for example the club wished to get involved as an educational resource with local schools it would involve setting up properly funded, resourced and staffed facilities, or set times whereby STFC funded staff would go into schools, for which the schools would probably pay unless it was funded by the club.  The school would need to justify it as delivering some aspect of the National Curriculum.

Where not talking doling out a few tickets here, although the school would probably stick that down to Ofsted as an  example of Community links, in much the same way as for Drove a visit to the Fire Station, Ambulance Station or Tesco.

As a school governor with a child in the same school and also engaging with the teachers on delivery of certain parts of the curriculum can I just enquire what your apparent extensive knowledge of the curriculum is based upon as it bears little resemblance to what I see on the ground?

[Reg Smeeton]

As a school governor with a child in the same school and also engaging with the teachers on delivery of certain parts of the curriculum can I just enquire what your apparent extensive knowledge of the curriculum is based upon as it bears little resemblance to what I see on the ground?

Have you had Ofsted recently? 

Here's an overview of the Drove School curriculum....

https://drove-pri.swindon.sch.uk/learning-and-education/curriculum/curriculum-overview

[horlock07]

Have you had Ofsted recently? 

Here's an overview of the Drove School curriculum....

https://drove-pri.swindon.sch.uk/learning-and-education/curriculum/curriculum-overview

Yes in December, it went very well thank you for asking.

[Bogus Dave]

It’s all very well and good handing out free tickets to schools, but if Richie Wellens isn’t teaching them algebra then what’s the fucking point

[pauld]

As a school governor with a child in the same school and also engaging with the teachers on delivery of certain parts of the curriculum can I just enquire what your apparent extensive knowledge of the curriculum is based upon as it bears little resemblance to what I see on the ground?

As he dodged the question, fuck all it would seem.

[OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR]

This thread is ridiculous and hilarious in equal measures