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« Reply #15 on: Tuesday, April 16, 2019, 15:26:57 »

Interesting piece on the radio this morning.  Do you go for a precise replica of what stood there 24 hrs ago, or for something sympathetic to that with a 21st century twist?
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« Reply #16 on: Tuesday, April 16, 2019, 15:36:15 »

Even better if it kick started a revival of Gothic architecture.

I must admit to being ambivalent about Gothic revival.... on the one hand I get that it proabbly makes more sense than something modern, but does leave me a bit cold, in terms of feeling.

Such an example would be East Kennet church, which I visited recently.... the local squire in Victorian times paid for a complete rebuild in the Gothic style, and it looks fine, but you do lose the unique sense of historic continuity that is still to be found in many churches, which retain original features, even if out of necessity they've had some restoration.



I remember visiting another Notre Dame rebuild in St Lo, Normandy.... it was one of those places that was so bombed to buggery in the War, that at first it was thought best to leave it as a ruin, like Oradour sur Glane, however it was rebuilt.

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« Reply #17 on: Tuesday, April 16, 2019, 18:33:59 »

That's a bit like asking if Buckingham Palace has anything to do with the Queen.   Cheesy

After St Peter's in Rome, it's difficult to think of a better known Catholic place of worship than Notre Dame.

Lourdes, and the Vatican probably the only two.
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« Reply #18 on: Tuesday, April 16, 2019, 23:20:13 »

Interesting piece on the radio this morning.  Do you go for a precise replica of what stood there 24 hrs ago, or for something sympathetic to that with a 21st century twist?

Like in Chesterfield?
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« Reply #19 on: Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 06:54:19 »

Lourdes, and the Vatican probably the only two.

I didn't realise there were so many catholics on here.
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« Reply #20 on: Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 08:34:33 »

I've got to be honest, if you'd shown me a picture of Notre Dame before this happened I'd not have known what it was or where it was. If you'd told me what it was I still wouldn't have been able to tell you where it was. Looks to be a very nice building, but I'm registering a zero on the fucks given scale.
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« Reply #21 on: Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 09:15:21 »

I didn't realise there were so many catholics on here.

Here's the religious make of Swindon at the last census....

Population by Census 2011
Buddhist 1209 0.6%
Christian 120287 57.5%
Hindu  2597 1.2%
Jewish 151 0.1%
Muslim 3538 1.7%
Sikh  1228 0.6%
Other  1061 0.5%
No Religion  64780 31.0%

As you can see just over 1 in every 2 Swindonians considers themselves Christian, of the various factions, Catholics would certainly represent a sizeable chunk... it probably shouldn't be a surprise then that there'll be a few on a Town forum, despite many not being Swindon residents, but perhaps had a connection at some point.
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« Reply #22 on: Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 09:36:08 »

Interesting piece on the radio this morning.  Do you go for a precise replica of what stood there 24 hrs ago, or for something sympathetic to that with a 21st century twist?

Thing is that Notre Dame was heavily restored/reconstructed in the 19th century by Viollet-le-Duc, so despite what is being reported, it already represents something of a facsimile of styles and periods, for instance the spire that collapsed was actually designed and built in the 19th century by Viollet-le-Duc! 
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« Reply #23 on: Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 09:39:29 »

Here's the religious make of Swindon at the last census....

Population by Census 2011
Buddhist 1209 0.6%
Christian 120287 57.5%
Hindu  2597 1.2%
Jewish 151 0.1%
Muslim 3538 1.7%
Sikh  1228 0.6%
Other  1061 0.5%
No Religion  64780 31.0%

As you can see just over 1 in every 2 Swindonians considers themselves Christian, of the various factions, Catholics would certainly represent a sizeable chunk... it probably shoukdn't be a surprise then that there'll e a few on a Town forum, despite many not being Swindon residents, but perhaps had a connection at some point.

When I worked at  a certain Council in north Cumbria in the early 2000's, it coincided with the census from 2001 being published, this showed that in a population of around 95,000 people there was 1 person who noted their religion as Hindu!
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« Reply #24 on: Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 09:50:19 »

I've got to be honest, if you'd shown me a picture of Notre Dame before this happened I'd not have known what it was or where it was. If you'd told me what it was I still wouldn't have been able to tell you where it was. Looks to be a very nice building, but I'm registering a zero on the fucks given scale.

I am an architectural historian by training (and thus know a fair bit about ND and have visited although we didn't go in) but I have to say that ecclesiastical architecture leaves me comparatively cold, I must confess that the fire(s) at Glasgow School of Art affected me much more than  this...
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« Reply #25 on: Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 11:24:35 »

Here's the religious make of Swindon at the last census....

Population by Census 2011
Buddhist 1209 0.6%
Christian 120287 57.5%
Hindu  2597 1.2%
Jewish 151 0.1%
Muslim 3538 1.7%
Sikh  1228 0.6%
Other  1061 0.5%
No Religion  64780 31.0%

As you can see just over 1 in every 2 Swindonians considers themselves Christian, of the various factions, Catholics would certainly represent a sizeable chunk... it probably shouldn't be a surprise then that there'll be a few on a Town forum, despite many not being Swindon residents, but perhaps had a connection at some point.

There are about 4 million Catholics UK-wide, so you'd expect something like 6%.  Maybe slightly more in a town like Swindon where there was a higher than average Irish, Italian & Polish influx after World War 2.  (I don't have figures or anything to support that.  Just an observation.)

It would be interesting to compare those stats above with similar for Reading or Bristol.  I suspect that, for a town of its size, representation for some of those religious groups is quite low in Swindon.  The Muslim figure, in particular, looks very low.  Are there really only around 3,000 Muslims in the town?
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« Reply #26 on: Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 11:27:39 »

Did i hear Mother Theresa say we are contributing funds to the rebuild?

If so, why?
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« Reply #27 on: Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 11:30:26 »

Did i hear Mother Theresa say we are contributing funds to the rebuild?

If so, why?
Cos we are all a little French. Sacré bleu.
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« Reply #28 on: Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 11:41:32 »

I'd like to see it rebuilt. There are other priorities to deal with first though, such as hungry kids etc. How much aid was given to the people of Grenfell?
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« Reply #29 on: Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 11:44:58 »

I'd like to see it rebuilt. There are other priorities to deal with first though, such as hungry kids etc. How much aid was given to the people of Grenfell?

Yeah but Grenfell didn't have stained glass windows.....
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