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« Reply #195 on: Thursday, January 23, 2020, 09:43:58 »

Woolery is most effective as a sub. His pace is useful in the last 15 minutes.

if he plays a whole game he's knackered after an hour and his pace is his only real asset.
He can be a great impact sub against tired slow defenders which are aplenty in this league, when we have enough bodies for the first team of course which could be a few weeks away yet.

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« Reply #196 on: Thursday, January 23, 2020, 09:45:51 »

He can be a great impact sub against tired slow defenders which are aplenty in this league, when we have enough bodies for the first team of course which could be a few weeks away yet.



He was a fantastic impact sub at Plymouth, if he had better decision making/composure we'd have ended up winning that game 3 or 4-1.
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« Reply #197 on: Thursday, January 23, 2020, 09:53:46 »

He was a fantastic impact sub at Plymouth, if he had better decision making/composure we'd have ended up winning that game 3 or 4-1.
Thats why hes plying his trade in L2 rather than the Championship. If he can improve that we will have a very good player on our hands.
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« Reply #198 on: Thursday, January 23, 2020, 10:04:05 »

Thats why he splying his trade in L2 rather than the Championship. If he can improve that we will have a very good player on our hands.

How long do we give him though?
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« Reply #199 on: Thursday, January 23, 2020, 10:06:33 »

How long do we give him though?

Tough one, he is only 25 so maybe still a couple of years before he 'peaks'.
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« Reply #200 on: Thursday, January 23, 2020, 10:09:54 »

Tough one, he is only 25 so maybe still a couple of years before he 'peaks'.
yeah it is a tough one, hes currently a half decent L2 player but he promises much more.
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« Reply #201 on: Thursday, January 23, 2020, 10:11:04 »

Woolery is a very good wide forward at this level. Quick, direct, good in the air. He's very useful.

He's not a striker though.
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« Reply #202 on: Thursday, January 23, 2020, 10:13:17 »

Woolery is a very good wide forward at this level. Quick, direct, good in the air. He's very useful.

He's not a striker though.
Yup, absolutely this. He's also improved greatly this season under Wellens, perhaps not to the extent that Anderson has but still noticeably better. If he can build on that and keep improving ... who knows?
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« Reply #203 on: Thursday, January 23, 2020, 10:15:21 »

How long do we give him though?

I don't think hoping players metamorphose into something they're not or ever will be, works.  Much better to focus on what they can do and try and work that into a team pattern.

Occasionally you get one who surprises, for us Alan Mac. Was thinking about him recently as chatting to a mate who the first STFC match we went together was Newport (a), AM made his debut at right back, and didn't stand out, he then played a few more there and a handful in midfield before Lou loaned him out to Torquay. It was about 2 seasons of nothing much when Ossie stuck him in v Oxford at the forward tip of the diamond and voila a million pound player.
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« Reply #204 on: Thursday, January 23, 2020, 10:17:45 »

I don't think hoping players metamorphose into something they're not or ever will be, works.  Much better to focus on what they can do and try and work that into a team pattern.
Yes and no. I know what you mean, just hoping a player can suddenly develop attributes they've never had can be fool's gold and there's a lot to be said for focusing on what they have rather than what they lack. But players can and do develop and improve. Keshi Anderson being a case in point this season
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« Reply #205 on: Thursday, January 23, 2020, 10:18:35 »

Yup, absolutely this. He's also improved greatly this season under Wellens, perhaps not to the extent that Anderson has but still noticeably better. If he can build on that and keep improving ... who knows?

he has improved but he's still one of the most frustrating players I've ever seen in a Swindon shirt. Some of them, you can just accept they're shit... Woolery you know he has something in his locker.
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« Reply #206 on: Thursday, January 23, 2020, 10:18:47 »

Yup, absolutely this. He's also improved greatly this season under Wellens, perhaps not to the extent that Anderson has but still noticeably better. If he can build on that and keep improving ... who knows?
He has improved a lot since the end of last season, his crossing is better as is his striking of shots, they are not to the right standard yet but he has improved, his heading and long throws are very much improved though, as you say behind Anderson he is the 2nd most improved player this season.
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« Reply #207 on: Thursday, January 23, 2020, 10:25:56 »

Yes and no. I know what you mean, just hoping a player can suddenly develop attributes they've never had can be fool's gold and there's a lot to be said for focusing on what they have rather than what they lack. But players can and do develop and improve. Keshi Anderson being a case in point this season

This sort of stuff fascinates me... look at someone like Jordan Henderson, absolute key component at Liverpool, who it could be argued are currently the best team in the world.  So does that make him the best midfield player in the world  Hmmm

With Keshi, one of his features in his early seasons was he tended to be fit to play... not so much this season, could that be because previously he was coasting but now working harder means picking up injuries?
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« Reply #208 on: Thursday, January 23, 2020, 10:30:58 »

This sort of stuff fascinates me... look at someone like Jordan Henderson, absolute key component at Liverpool, who it could be argued are currently the best team in the world.  So does that make him the best midfield player in the world  :hmmm

With Keshi, one of his features in his early seasons was he tended to be fit to play... not so much this season, could that be because previously he was coasting but now working harder means picking up injuries?

Jordan Henderson is one of the best players in the world in his position, yes.
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« Reply #209 on: Thursday, January 23, 2020, 10:39:38 »

I don't see that much improvement in Woolery.

But I don't have a problem with him bring in/around the team.
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