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« on: Friday, December 14, 2018, 14:26:11 »

Here are the stats showing the number of on pitch minutes that players under the age of 23 have played per team in the EFL so far this season.

We are right up there (or down there on this upside down list, why its upside down I don't know) in 4th place.

Not really of much relevance TBH but interesting none the less to see that some teams like Notts County have an ageing team yet still struggling, experience definately does not guarantee success.

72. Bolton (#bwfc) 1417 mins
71. Stoke (#scfc) 1468 mins
70. Notts County (#notts) 1517 mins
69. Bury (#buryfc) 1529 mins
68. Sheffield Utd (#sufc) 2135 mins
67. Middlesbrough (#boro) 2303 mins
66. Bristol Rovers (#utg) 2601 mins
65. West Brom (#wba) 3019 mins
64. Birmingham (#kro) 3211 mins
63. QPR (#qpr) 3288 mins
62. Millwall (#millwall) 3358 mins
61. Southend (#blues) 3843 mins
60. Gillingham (#gills) 4018 mins
59. Sunderland (#safc) 4070 mins
58. Crawley (#ctfc) 4120 mins
57. Nottingham F (#nffc) 4123 mins
56. Northampton (#ntfc) 4137 mins
55. Plymouth (#pafc) 4312 mins
54. Blackpool (#UTP) 4439 mins
53. Tranmere (#trfc) 4459 mins
52. Rotherham (#rufc) 4540 mins
51. Ipswich (#itfc) 4681 mins
50. Lincoln (#imps) 5184 mins
49. Leeds (#lufc) 5227 mins
48. Luton (#ltfc) 5245 mins
47. Exeter (#ecfc) 5349 mins
46. Reading (#royals) 5364 mins
45. Newport (#ncafc) 5482 mins
44. Norwich (#ncfc) 5564 mins
43. Bradford (#bcafc) 5675 mins
42.Sheffield Wed (#swfc) 5758 mins
41. Accrington (#asfc) 5826 mins
40. Hull (#hcafc) 6016 mins
39. Wycombe (#wwfc) 6099 mins
38. Grimsby (#gtfc) 6165 mins
37. Fleetwood (#ftfc) 6320 mins
36. Cambridge (#cufc) 6350 mins
35. Aston Villa (#avfc) 6479 mins
34. Port Vale (#pvfc) 6501 mins
33. Morecambe (#shrimps) 6512 mins
32. Cheltenham (#ctfc) 6530 mins
31. Wimbledon (#afcw) 6636 mins
30. Blackburn (#brfc) 6913 mins
29. Derby (#dcfc) 6940 mins
28. Burton (#bafc) 6947 mins
27. Stevenage (#boro) 7021 mins
26. Portsmouth (#pompey) 7308
25. Franchise (#mkdfc) 7334 mins
24. Macclesfield (#mtfc) 7393 mins
23. Wigan (#wafc) 7483 mins
22. Peterborough (#pufc) 7677 mins
21. Carlisle (#cufc) 7812 mins
20. Shrewsbury (#salop) 7882 mins
19. Doncaster (#drfc) 8033 mins
18. Bristol City (#bcfc) 8310 mins
17. Oxford (#oufc) 8710 mins
16. Rochdale (#rafc) 8886 mins
15. Brentford (#bees) 8949 mins
14. Coventry (#pusb) 8950 mins
13. Mansfield (#stags) 8968 mins
12. Preston (#pnefc) 9031 mins
11. Charlton (#cafc) 9246 mins
10. Oldham (#oafc) 9463 mins
9. Barnsley (#COYR) 9709 mins
8. Walsall (#saddlers) 9831 mins
7. Colchester (#ColU) 10,099 mins
6. Forest Green (#fgr) 10,346 mins
5. Scunthorpe (#sufc) 10,382 mins
4. Swindon (#stfc) 11,031 mins
3. Crewe (#cafc) 11,477 mins
2. Swansea (#swans) 11,480 mins
1. Yeovil (#ytfc) 13,245 mins
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« Reply #1 on: Friday, December 14, 2018, 14:34:45 »

Interesting to see. As you say, experience doesn't guarantee anything, especially if the players you have are poor or the management isn't up to scratch.

What the stats don't show are whether the teams at the bottom (more minutes) would do better with a couple of experienced heads of suitable quality. Also, teams in this table could be classed as senior even with a squad entirely made up of players aged 24-26, or aged 33-35, so it would be interesting to somehow factor in an average age of the starting XI too.
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« Reply #2 on: Friday, December 14, 2018, 14:36:32 »

 It is quite interesting.... Notts aren't doing well but Bury are.

 
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« Reply #3 on: Friday, December 14, 2018, 14:37:21 »

Indeed, its interesting but hard to correlate anything much from it really.

I am sure somebody can do a chart with starting line up ages, but, blimey that would be a lot of work for someone!
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« Reply #4 on: Friday, December 14, 2018, 14:45:19 »

Indeed, its interesting but hard to correlate anything much from it really.

True, but for example I've a mate who's a Jack, and he tells me that he's enjoying it so much more this season, as they're playing youngsters who although hit and miss have that enthusiasm.

This pic captures that from a Town perspective...



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« Reply #5 on: Friday, December 14, 2018, 14:48:17 »

Indeed, its interesting but hard to correlate anything much from it really.
tbh I suspect the conclusion is that there is little correlation between age and success, with quality of players and management being far more relevant. If you're good enough, you're old (or young) enough, as the saying goes. What does make a difference though is for the fans, always nice to see some of our own homegrown players being given a chance and having some success
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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 14:10:58 »

An update to this as of Feb 4th.

Up to 2nd in the table!

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 15:01:43 »

An update to this as of Feb 4th.

Up to 2nd in the table!



Yeah *foaming at the mouth* but that.s because Power will not spend any money and just ways us to go down to the National League with kids.
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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 17:55:17 »

Check out where experience gets you, Notts County.
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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 19:55:36 »

Yeah but then Bury are doing ok so the model really provides nothing, other than showing us the teams that are providing minutes to younger players. League position really bares no relevance and the Alan Hansen comment still haunts him "you can't win anything with kids."

Also, who is the new team in there? R Wigan Athletic?  Hmmm
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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday, February 6, 2019, 21:38:31 »

Oh and the glaringly obvious one, Yeovilton Youths aren't doing too greatly either. They, may I add have former Premier League experience at CB in there too.
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« Reply #11 on: Thursday, February 7, 2019, 08:36:09 »

Would be interesting to know the break down of minutes between club contracted U23 players and U23s on loan.
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« Reply #12 on: Thursday, February 7, 2019, 11:09:12 »

Oh and the glaringly obvious one, Yeovilton Youths aren't doing too greatly either. They, may I add have former Premier League experience at CB in there too.
TBF Dickinson only played there 5 times and that was 10 years ago now.

Would be interesting to know the break down of minutes between club contracted U23 players and U23s on loan.
Of the teams on the left of the list, the highest number of U23 players, only Swansea, Crewe, Barnsley, Colchester and Brentford have 2 or less loanees.

FGR, Scunthorpe. Mansfield, Coventry, Oldham, Charlton, Swindon, Rochdale, Oxford, Walsall, Wimbledon and Macclesfield have between 4 and 8 loanees.
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« Reply #13 on: Thursday, February 7, 2019, 11:26:10 »

Of course not all loan players are under 23.

Just curious because for us personally itís a bit of a waste if all those minutes are going to other teams U23s (I know they arenít)

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« Reply #14 on: Thursday, February 7, 2019, 11:44:40 »

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