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« Reply #45 on: Tuesday, December 18, 2018, 15:01:33 »

They’ve now made a counter-offer of £194,750 to my £185,000.

If you genuinely want it, stick to your offer and see if they come down.

This is likely the EAs falsely tipping the price up (it's their job I know, commission, and you're a first time buyer (many think you won't have the knowledge) also they're cunts) but I'd say the counter isn't genuine.

Test their resolve and hold your ground. Even ignore them for a week. If it was genuine you'll not hear back. If it wasn't genuine then they'll likely ring you claiming "Oh Hi Mr. Goat, about the property you were interested in? Some good news, the sellers have agreed to lower the price to £189,750 (thus achieving near £190k) would you like to make an improved offer?

It can become a game of poker and generally it's only the agents who are bluffing. It's dirty but you have to play them at their game. And win.

Also if you're not fussed, just look elsewhere. After all it is a buyers market so don't be made a mug of over inflated offers. There's no billy big bollocks about it either, the EAs couldn't give a fuck if they sold you a dead squirrel and dressed it as Michelle Pfeiffer. So long as they get your money and as much of it as possible.
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« Reply #46 on: Tuesday, December 18, 2018, 15:10:03 »

This is likely the EAs falsely tipping the price up (it's their job I know, commission, and you're a first time buyer (many think you won't have the knowledge) also they're cunts) but I'd say the counter isn't genuine.

Is that even legal?!  Estate agents are obliged to pass details of a bid on to a seller who has engaged them.  So I would think that it follows that falsely advising buyers of bids that do not exist would fall foul of the law.  And if it doesn't, it should.
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« Reply #47 on: Tuesday, December 18, 2018, 15:14:36 »

Is that even legal?!  Estate agents are obliged to pass details of a bid on to a seller who has engaged them.  So I would think that it follows that falsely advising buyers of bids that do not exist would fall foul of the law.  And if it doesn't, it should.

The EAs are hardly likely to come out shouting the shenanigans that goes on, in order to generate a higher price. Are they?
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« Reply #48 on: Tuesday, December 18, 2018, 15:42:54 »

If the counter offer is too high for your budget, walk away.  If it's built on snow in the Sahara, they'll soon come back if they want to accept your original offer.

Remember though, the seller does not have to sell.  If they feel they can get more, they'll hold out.  not every seller is desperate - I've put a house on the market several times and withdrawn it when the right offers were not forthcoming to make it worthwhile.
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« Reply #49 on: Tuesday, December 18, 2018, 16:03:18 »

If the counter offer is too high for your budget, walk away.  If it's built on snow in the Sahara, they'll soon come back if they want to accept your original offer.

Remember though, the seller does not have to sell.  If they feel they can get more, they'll hold out.  not every seller is desperate - I've put a house on the market several times and withdrawn it when the right offers were not forthcoming to make it worthwhile.

Essentially what I was saying, with the added EA bashing, admittedly. However I'm never concise  Pint
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« Reply #50 on: Wednesday, December 19, 2018, 10:24:17 »

They’ve now made a counter-offer of £194,750 to my £185,000.

I offered £190k, they've come back with £192,500. Tempted to either stick to £190k or go to £191k and no more.
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« Reply #51 on: Wednesday, December 19, 2018, 12:53:55 »

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-76976162.html

Much better for you
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« Reply #52 on: Wednesday, December 19, 2018, 13:02:48 »

Was looking at a few coach houses; I like em.
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« Reply #53 on: Wednesday, December 19, 2018, 13:20:05 »

Was looking at a few coach houses; I like em.



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« Reply #54 on: Wednesday, December 19, 2018, 13:21:16 »

He has breakable connections to Oxford, not Gillingham.
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« Reply #55 on: Wednesday, December 19, 2018, 14:32:27 »

I live in a detached coach house and for a first time buyer it’s pretty perfect - cheaper than three bed houses in the same estate but with near enough the same total floor space

Only downside is lack of garden in the summertime, but a lot of the newer ones have those added on aswell
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« Reply #56 on: Wednesday, December 19, 2018, 16:45:25 »

Just sent them an email saying £190k is on the table but I'm also now looking at other options. Let's see if they give in and how long it takes.
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« Reply #57 on: Wednesday, December 19, 2018, 17:37:23 »



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« Reply #58 on: Wednesday, December 19, 2018, 17:38:06 »

I offered £190k, they've come back with £192,500. Tempted to either stick to £190k or go to £191k and no more.

Trying to squeeze every penny out. Hold your ground Goat.
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« Reply #59 on: Wednesday, December 19, 2018, 17:48:19 »

a coach House is like a flat above a garage, is that right?
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