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« Reply #180 on: Monday, November 12, 2018, 13:04:39 » |
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You're right about a lot of it is down to luck, right man, right place etc.
But your analysis of outcomes is very shaky. Wise wsn't inexperienced,, he'd taken Millwall to a cup final, and into Europe. Cooper wasn't inexperienced he'd had something like 200 game in management before us. Wilson worked up to a point, but he was culpable for leading us into Div 4 in 10/11. Flitcroft didn't fail... he left us in a PO slot and comfortably clear of the sort of slide we're now experiencing.
Power is culpable for getting us into Div 4, his hope that we could "limp over the line" in 16/17 tells us tat.
Your taking inexperienced as having zero experience. Wise- Swindon Town was his first permanent managerial role- i don't class 2 years of player manager as fitting the profile of an experienced manager. Cooper was experienced below league level but im sure only had 1 season in the football league with pboro. Wilson however is a very experienced gaffa and kept us up and then play off final before the sales of paynter and austin etc we rightly struggled. Id say his time here was a general success. Flitcroft failed and he bailed. you don't know that we would have finished up in playoffs and looking at the state of the team performances and personel when he left im certain we wouldn't have. |
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« Reply #181 on: Monday, November 12, 2018, 13:05:38 » |
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Who exactly were we expecting?Someone amazing?
I didn't expect us to sack a manager and turn to Richie Wellens that is for sure |
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« Reply #182 on: Monday, November 12, 2018, 13:06:14 » |
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Underwhelming appointment. Feels a bit Flitcroft lite (and not in weight). That's really saying something. Not going to write him off but if he were to fail, then Power can fall on his sword. I guess we're now "We Are Wellens Red & White Army", seems like a long time since I've a sang the R&W army chant followed by a booming "ESS TEE EFF SEE". It's been mostly "Ohh ffs you Effing C!". I'm just going to depress myself aren't I?  |
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« Reply #183 on: Monday, November 12, 2018, 13:07:02 » |
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Uninspiring
Won’t be writing the fella off before he’s set foot in the building though cos that’s idiotic
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« Reply #184 on: Monday, November 12, 2018, 13:07:13 » |
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We are at the lowest position we have been in in my life time supporting the club. We are about to appoint a manager who got sacked at oldham and his assistant happens to be from guess where. Things are progressively getting worse
Exactly. If you are going to take a risk on someone, take an up and coming Garrard type. Not someone who failed and got sacked in his one managerial appointment. And the Waterford striker as his assistant. Jeez. Not the most inspiring appointment ever but can't be worse than PB.
We are 17th when he took over. There is room for worse. |
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« Reply #185 on: Monday, November 12, 2018, 13:07:17 » |
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Good god. This is awful.
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« Reply #186 on: Monday, November 12, 2018, 13:08:09 » |
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We are at the lowest position we have been in in my life time supporting the club. We are about to appoint a manager who got sacked at oldham and his assistant happens to be from guess where. Things are progressively getting worse
Who cares where our assistant is born? |
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« Reply #187 on: Monday, November 12, 2018, 13:08:51 » |
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Power's been unlucky in the past with some decent appointments.
Maybe now he'll be lucky with an underwhelming appointment.
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« Reply #188 on: Monday, November 12, 2018, 13:11:22 » |
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Is it confirmed though or just "Sky Sources..." as they have been known to get things wrong. No smoke without fire I guess  |
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« Reply #189 on: Monday, November 12, 2018, 13:12:55 » |
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Well, he was a cracking bargain pick up in CM 01/02 (along with Michael Duff, coincidentally now Cheltenham manager). That's pretty much the only feeling I have about him either way, so we'll see how it goes.
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« Reply #190 on: Monday, November 12, 2018, 13:13:14 » |
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Who cares where our assistant is born?
You know what i mean. His current club |
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« Reply #191 on: Monday, November 12, 2018, 13:14:22 » |
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Well, he was a cracking bargain pick up in CM 01/02 (along with Michael Duff, coincidentally now Cheltenham manager). That's pretty much the only feeling I have about him either way, so we'll see how it goes.
Indeed he was, he had a flair rating of 19/20 so thats good enough for me. |
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« Reply #192 on: Monday, November 12, 2018, 13:15:35 » |
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His win percentage is almost Hoddlesque compared to Brown's here!
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« Reply #193 on: Monday, November 12, 2018, 13:17:56 » |
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His win percentage is almost Hoddlesque compared to Brown's here!
Phil Brown WR 31.3% from 32 games. Richie Wellens WR 32.6% from 43 games. On paper a like for like replacement. |
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adje
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« Reply #194 on: Monday, November 12, 2018, 13:20:18 » |
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Blimey,that high?I'm amazed
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