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« Reply #210 on: Sunday, November 18, 2018, 11:20:06 »

 Although we're in uncharted territory..... and the alarm bell is ringing, it's probably a bit too early for the panic button.

 None of us know what a Div 4 relegation battle looks like... we're more expert in relegations from the other 3 leagues.  

 Several of those, you could tell from the off, that we were nowhere near good enough. Others at times we've looked OK for parts of it, particularly in Div 3, with the 4 down.  If Div 4 was a 4 down league, you'd say we look a very likely candidate.

 But it isn't  Smiley  

 I think Wellens gets PV on Sat as free hit, to see whether he's understood anything about his squad and the situation, which it is in, then backed up by Stevenage at home on the Tuesday, and a chance to put the necessary changes into action.

 The cup game at the beginning of Dec is a bit of a distraction now.... but if we continue to slide, the Newport game should be used as a chance to protest Power's continued tenure.  OK it may not make him sell up, but I think he needs to know that many fans find our situation unacceptable and don't want it to get any worse.
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« Reply #211 on: Sunday, November 18, 2018, 11:21:02 »

Every managerial decision Power has made since that Preston game has been the wrong one.. we lost the last of the Di Canio era players as well as Byrne & Luongo replacing with garbage like Robert, Barry, Ojaama & BOO which ultimately lost Cooper his job, Ling was a good appointment but sadly wasn’t to be, Williams was then shoehorned into a role he wasn’t fit for, Sherwood came in and confused the matter then disappeared, Flitcroft was appointed too late into pre season wasted the budget then walked away, Brown came in did nothing and got the job and then assembled the most unbalanced squad I have ever seen, Wellens needs time to put his mark on things, but his honeymoon period is over already.

Our transfer business is scattergun and always done too late, we have wasted money on players like Woolery & Anderson that have no resale value. We have tried to polish turds, just because it worked once with Gladwin. Then went from a transfer policy of teenagers to OAP’s in just over a season. Transfers always appear to have the finger prints of Power on them.

All of these things have turned the fans away and fed the internet trolls, who in turn have whipped the brainless part of our fan base into a frenzy of keyboard bashing which has spread through the younger social media fans like a virus. I know so many longtime fans who no longer go as they have lost the love for the club and will probably never return, even with an upturn in fortunes.
The fans that do remain at the CG now boo at every opportunity, it won’t be long before the team is booed before kick off. But with our home record looking like below since Preston it’s not surprising fans have turned this way as there is no longer any entertainment.

Played - 78
Won - 28
Drawn - 19
Lost - 31
GF - 97 (1.24 per game)
GA - 113 (1.44 per game)
3 or more conceded - 10
No goal scored - 22

Power has not helped any of this by creating a news black out and distancing himself from problems and failed managers.

In short Power is to blame as he is ultimately the one that has created this with his decision making. Although looking across to Waterford, has he just been unlucky with his decisions!? He has always tried to change things when it hasn’t worked, but he always tends to make the situation worse.



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« Reply #212 on: Sunday, November 18, 2018, 14:03:59 »

Although we're in uncharted territory..... and the alarm bell is ringing, it's probably a bit too early for the panic button.

 None of us know what a Div 4 relegation battle looks like... we're more expert in relegations from the other 3 leagues.  

 Several of those, you could tell from the off, that we were nowhere near good enough. Others at times we've looked OK for parts of it, particularly in Div 3, with the 4 down.  If Div 4 was a 4 down league, you'd say we look a very likely candidate.

 But it isn't  Smiley  

 I think Wellens gets PV on Sat as free hit, to see whether he's understood anything about his squad and the situation, which it is in, then backed up by Stevenage at home on the Tuesday, and a chance to put the necessary changes into action.

 The cup game at the beginning of Dec is a bit of a distraction now.... but if we continue to slide, the Newport game should be used as a chance to protest Power's continued tenure.  OK it may not make him sell up, but I think he needs to know that many fans find our situation unacceptable and don't want it to get any worse.

None of us know what a Div 4 relegation battle looks like...

In a word, ugly.
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« Reply #213 on: Sunday, November 18, 2018, 14:07:34 »

The cup game at the beginning of Dec is a bit of a distraction now.... but if we continue to slide, the Newport game should be used as a chance to protest Power's continued tenure.  OK it may not make him sell up, but I think he needs to know that many fans find our situation unacceptable and don't want it to get any worse.

Could make it Swiss themed.
Srk, for one, could be up for some direct action and might not need a great deal of persuasion to roll up sporting a pair of lederhosen and swinging a large cow bell in the direction of the posh seats while pointing the way back to Geneva.

The cow bell is ringing.  Smiley

Seriously though, if things continue as they are, then it's inevitable that protest will become more concerted and possibly organised.

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« Reply #214 on: Sunday, November 18, 2018, 14:07:50 »

None of us know what a Div 4 relegation battle looks like...
If it continues like this we soon will ........
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« Reply #215 on: Sunday, November 18, 2018, 14:13:03 »

It’ll be like any other relegation battle.
You need to win games. Division is irrelevant.
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« Reply #216 on: Sunday, November 18, 2018, 14:13:45 »

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Seriously though, if things continue as they are, then it's inevitable that protest will become more concerted and possibly organised.


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And what would that achieve ?, think he already knows the majority of fans feelings towards him.   He won't go until he's ready,  and no amount of protests will change that.
Would be more than happy to see another chairman in place, but think for now we're stuck with what we've got,  like it or not.
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« Reply #217 on: Sunday, November 18, 2018, 14:27:21 »

I’m surprised there has been no thisiswindon style howling of ‘where’s the money gone?’
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« Reply #218 on: Sunday, November 18, 2018, 14:46:46 »

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Seriously though, if things continue as they are, then it's inevitable that protest will become more concerted and possibly organised.


And what would that achieve ?, think he already knows the majority of fans feelings towards him.   He won't go until he's ready,  and no amount of protests will change that.
Would be more than happy to see another chairman in place, but think for now we're stuck with what we've got,  like it or not.

Protests would at least alert the Trust, to the fact that they should reconsider getting into bed with Power over the CG and perhaps possibly consider being the buyer of the club, if Power can be persuaded to withdraw.

Certainly do nothing and you'll get nothing... and can't really complain if we're playing Chippenham etc in a couple of years time.
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« Reply #219 on: Sunday, November 18, 2018, 14:55:47 »

Maybe somebody needs to go to Switzerland and paint his driveway
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« Reply #220 on: Sunday, November 18, 2018, 15:05:08 »

It’ll be like any other relegation battle.
You need to win games. Division is irrelevant.

Obviously not irrelevant... Div 4 only has 2 down. You could get a season with 2 poor clubs like 15/16 where 35 points could keep you up... or a season like 12/13 where 52 was required.

Having a target is important as Wellens seemed to think 50 was enough at Oldham, which he achieved.... it wasn't.

We have Macc, who look like they will get a low number... early doors Morecambe looked a viable candidate, with financial problems and last season some gates below 1000. Now a point behind us.

Notts at the moment are our best hope of a complete implosion... which would ease the pressure on us considerably.
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« Reply #221 on: Sunday, November 18, 2018, 16:18:47 »

So, what your saying is - you still need to win games to stay up in division 4.

Just like every other fucking division.
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« Reply #222 on: Sunday, November 18, 2018, 16:22:15 »

it is, but it's also true you don't get saved by there only being 2 crap teams in other divisions.
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« Reply #223 on: Sunday, November 18, 2018, 16:23:31 »


We have Macc, who look like they will get a low number... early doors Morecambe looked a viable candidate, with financial problems and last season some gates below 1000. Now a point behind us.

Notts at the moment are our best hope of a complete implosion... which would ease the pressure on us considerably.

Grimsby & Cambridge will be in the race to escape the Football League black hole too. That's four who over the course of the season I think will finish below us. Something like a bottom four of;

21 Cambridge Utd
22 Grimsby/Notts
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23 Notts/Grimsby
24 Macclesfield

I'm going to go out on a limb and say we'll have a very mini decent run at some point and ultimately finish about 14th. It will be deemed a relative success. Not brilliant but not a disaster. The real hard work will start next season.
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« Reply #224 on: Sunday, November 18, 2018, 16:34:19 »

So, what your saying is - you still need to win games to stay up in division 4.

Just like every other fucking division.

If you get a 35 point season we could draw 14 of the next 28 and still stay up..no wins required.
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