How do you think we are shaping up?

[Reg Smeeton]

Apart from... if Tranmere win Tuesday and Saturday, they'll move to 78 and open it all up. Both MK and Flitcroft could miss out in a glorious twist.

The massive game on Tuesday is Oldham at Newport.... win for Newport moves them up into the PO spot.... win for Oldham, means we finish 14th or 15th.

[swindonmaniac]

Apart from... if Tranmere win Tuesday and Saturday, they'll move to 78 and open it all up. Both MK and Flitcroft could miss out in a glorious twist.

That would please me !!!.

[Reg Smeeton]

Wellens correctly points out the problems at the club for the last few years, which have been pretty obvious... now of course there are dangers in his appoach, but also an opportunity. Can he use the coming weeks to make us at least look like a proper football club again?

Sort of thing required... get recruitment done early. Get a structured set of friendlies in place asap. If there is to be a bonding trip like Brown had, early recruitment means you have the players to bond, not like last year's brush up Phil's tan mission.

Have an open day at the CG in the school hols... doesn't have to be all singing/dancing Fitton style... more a meet and greet new players, maybe an open training session get the kids/mums etc having selfies taken etc.   Mix this up with the Trust revealing plans for the CG purchase , and trying to sell some shares... emphasising the joint venture and reassuring fans that we're in this together.

Hold a Q and A forum at the CG, one evening.... ideally Wellens and Power, but I wouldn't expect Power.... maybe Anderson would do, or Morfuni.

All simple stuff, but it's the sort of thing which has led some of us to describe the club as broken, because it doesn't happen.... no links between fans and club.  There's an inherent danger in a broken club... and that's there only being presently 8 clubs between us and non league.

[Sir red ken]

Wellens correctly points out the problems at the club for the last few years, which have been pretty obvious... now of course there are dangers in his appoach, but also an opportunity. Can he use the coming weeks to make us at least look like a proper football club again?

Sort of thing required... get recruitment done early. Get a structured set of friendlies in place asap. If there is to be a bonding trip like Brown had, early recruitment means you have the players to bond, not like last year's brush up Phil's tan mission.

Have an open day at the CG in the school hols... doesn't have to be all singing/dancing Fitton style... more a meet and greet new players, maybe an open training session get the kids/mums etc having selfies taken etc.   Mix this up with the Trust revealing plans for the CG purchase , and trying to sell some shares... emphasising the joint venture and reassuring fans that we're in this together.


Hold a Q and A forum at the CG, one evening.... ideally Wellens and Power, but I wouldn't expect Power.... maybe Anderson would do, or Morfuni.

All simple stuff, but it's the sort of thing which has led some of us to describe the club as broken, because it doesn't happen.... no links between fans and club.  There's an inherent danger in a broken club... and that's there only being presently 8 clubs between us and non league.

Some interesting points but none of the above will happen. The form of STFC is bottom 4 and that's how its going to finish. A bad start to next season which is very likely do to a last minute loan and freebie signings policy and Wellens will go the way of those before him despite all the fine words and truth he's spoken about the club.As you've pointed out there's not much between us and the bottom over a season, the best we can hope for is that 2 teams will be utterly shite next season to keep us up. anything else will be a miracle.

[chalkies_shorts]

Many years ago under Bob Smith pre season they had a game blues v reds. All squad was used and entry to the game was free. Thought it was a great way to introduce new players.
I think they used to do it back in the 50s.
Tagged on to an open day would probably go down well.

[pauld]

Some interesting points but none of the above will happen. The form of STFC is bottom 4 and that's how its going to finish. A bad start to next season which is very likely do to a last minute loan and freebie signings policy and Wellens will go the way of those before him despite all the fine words and truth he's spoken about the club.As you've pointed out there's not much between us and the bottom over a season, the best we can hope for is that 2 teams will be utterly shite next season to keep us up. anything else will be a miracle.

You're working hard to keep that "Yellow troll" tag aren't you?

[Batch]

Apart from... if Tranmere win Tuesday and Saturday, they'll move to 78 and open it all up. Both MK and Flitcroft could miss out in a glorious twist.

The massive game on Tuesday is Oldham at Newport.... win for Newport moves them up into the PO spot.... win for Oldham, means we finish 14th or 15th.

phew, can still snatch 13th with a win and a bit of luck. nervy days

[Reg Smeeton]

The massive game on Tuesday is Oldham at Newport.... win for Newport moves them up into the PO spot.... win for Oldham, means we finish 14th or 15th.

phew, can still snatch 13th with a win and a bit of luck. nervy days

I'd rather finish 13th than 15th... top half should have been doable.  When we played Newport at the start of the 3 game away run 5 games ago, a good point kept them down below us... since we've got 2 points they've got 13.

Bury up....

[Batch]

I don't really care, 13, 14th, 15th it's all shit

[DiV]

Champions
Automatic
Play offs
Nothingness
Relegation

8th to 22nd all the same.

[Reg Smeeton]

Champions
Automatic
Play offs
Nothingness
Relegation

8th to 22nd all the same.

Maybe in your world, but the league table is the most reliable metric to judge a season.... and clearly Wellens has thrown his plans and toys out of the pram, because we can't get say an 8th place finish, at least respectable, or a 9th place finish at least matching last season's effort.

So for example Newport who occupied our sort of perch until recently should finish at least top ten even if not making the PO's last day, and therefore including cup exploits will be able to claim their greatest ever season in current form and look forward with some optimism, on the playing side even if off pitch looks threatening.

Further you can see the impact it has on fans through social media, when they consider the obvious worse finish since 83/84 headline.

[Reg Smeeton]

 This is farly incendiary stuff from Welllens....

He said: “I want to change the feeling around this club. At the moment, this club is just a football team, it’s not a football club.

“We’re going to do loads of work in the community next year, in terms of going out to coach local young football teams and things like that.

“I want there to be a connection between the players and the supporters and I don’t think we’ve got that right now.”

I've long argued on here the concept of the broken club... all links between club and fans gone.  Further it's not something solely attributable to Power, but the process has accelerated under his ownership, therefore this is an implied criticism of him, by the manager.

Which begs the question, has Wellens run this by the owner, or does he feel that given our historic shitness atm that he can get away with it 

This is a bit like an alcoholic at first needs to be able to say they have a problem, before they can confront it. 

So this is a first step, an acceptance of the broken club... time and effort shouldn't be wasted in further argument about culpability, but rather ideas from both club and fans as to what we're going to do about it...

[pauld]

And it continues on from his "cancer of mediocracy (sic)" rant from last week. Good stuff if he has the backing to turn it round.

[Wobbly Bob]

I wonder if this is the result of a positive influence from Clem behind the scenes?

[The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey]

Or Power’s ‘I’m outta here soon. Say what you like.’

Can’t see how Power could argue against what he’s said, though. It’s plain for all to see.

Fixing it is another matter - probably only attainable through success on the pitch.