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[adje]

Nathan Thompson is worth next to nothing anyway.Knoyle is a far better player in my opinion

[Peter Venkman]

He has his faults, we all know that.
But selling players on the cheap has never been one of them, despite what many of our fans will try make us believe.

I agree totally, Power has a lot of faults but he is by no means our worst chairman IMO, not by miles, even if a huge part of our fanbase think he is the devil incarnate.

He will never let any player be knowing undersold in the transfer market.

[tans]

Nathan Thompson is worth next to nothing anyway.Knoyle is a far better player in my opinion

But Nathan Thompson has pashun and is one of our own! Great captain too.

I agree with you.

[Peter Venkman]

But Nathan Thompson has pashun and is one of our own! Great captain too.

I agree with you.

I think Knoyle has the potential to go a lot further in the game than NT.

[Reg Smeeton]

I agree totally, Power has a lot of faults but he is by no means our worst chairman IMO, not by miles, even if a huge part of our fanbase think he is the devil incarnate.

He will never let any player be knowing undersold in the transfer market.

Power isn't the Chairman... he's the owner. Completely different.  The owner isn't even the same as the majority shareholder.

We've had a couple of majority shareholders like SSW and Black who've put in Chairman as such.... Hunt, Carson, Fitton, Wray as there has been other heads involved in what might be termed a "Board"   If Jed was ever the owner, then he had the classic, Callum Rice "Board"   

Again someone like Terry Brady was he ever truly the owner    after he quit, and we had the Donegan and Blatchley interregnum, it seemed that SSW was still majority shareholder after all.

So it could be argued that Power is the first real owner, insofar as there are no other voices around what used to be called the Boardroom.

When judging his time thus far, then you can say he'll probably do enough to keep league football in Swindon, a not insignificant achievement, but that's about it.

[Peter Venkman]

I think you will find he actually IS charman. Saying he isn't chairman is truly splitting hairs, he is owner/chairman so my point still stands.

[Flashheart]

I agree totally, Power has a lot of faults but he is by no means our worst chairman IMO, not by miles, even if a huge part of our fanbase think he is the devil incarnate.

The other day, I saw somebody on one of those FB pages say that we cannot possibly get worse than Power.

He's far from being perfect, but fucking hell!

[Peter Venkman]

The other day, I saw somebody on one of those FB pages say that we cannot possibly get worse than Power.

He's far from being perfect, but fucking hell!

Exactly, as a for instance....Jed...we need go no further than that but lets do it...the Oystens at Blackpool, The Venkys at Blackburn, Mike Ashley at Newcastle, Vincent Tan at Cardiff, The endless owners of Pompey, The endless owners of Leeds Utd, John Batchelor at York, the list goes on and on.

[Reg Smeeton]

I think you will find he actually IS charman. Saying he isn't chairman is truly splitting hairs, he is owner/chairman so my point still stands.

Although seemingly a pedantic point... it isn't.  Whereas in the past there were other voices arouind the table... now there isn't.

Power is the first complete autocrat at STFC and as such cannot be compared to his predecessors. 

What can be compared is to where the new model of ownership has taken us.... some economic stability .... good,  league position... not so good.

[Kinky Tom]

There are so many instances of worse than Power in recent history in the Football League.

Again, he has his faults, but if anybody really thinks he is stealing from the club or actively plotting the clubs demise they need to get sectioned immediately.  

I think he's trying to do right by the club but his execution hasn't quite been up to it.  It looks like he's learning from mistakes to me, we've a few players that have no sell on value whatsoever but are fit for purpose in the division we find ourselves in, that wouldn't have been the case 2 or 3 years ago.

[Peter Venkman]

The owner chairman is a fairly new thing in football and very prevalent but few clubs now have an owner that isn't a chairman, certainly in the top 2 divisions and often much lower too.

Power may well be the first but I am certain he won't be the last for sure.

And yes I agree totally KT.

[Reg Smeeton]

Exactly, as a for instance....Jed...we need go no further than that but lets do it...the Oystens at Blackpool, The Venkys at Blackburn, Mike Ashley at Newcastle, Vincent Tan at Cardiff, The endless owners of Pompey, The endless owners of Leeds Utd, John Batchelor at York, the list goes on and on.

Of course we can get worse than Power.... however that wasn't the original point.  Similarly we could get better than Power, we won't know until he sells up.

[Flashheart]

I think he's trying to do right by the club but his execution hasn't quite been up to it.  

Me too, but not in an entirely altruistic sense.

He's made it clear he wants to profit from it. To do that, though, he'd need to be selling something that's worth paying for. That means managing it well and investing well. The former part hasn't gone to plan... yet and we may or may not see the latter come to fruition on the coming months/years.

In another year or two we might be looking in the best shape that we have done for a long, long time regardless of which league we're in. Or we might not. Time's a bugger.

[Reg Smeeton]

The owner chairman is a fairly new thing in football and very prevalent but few clubs now have an owner that isn't a chairman, certainly in the top 2 divisions and often much lower too.

Power may well be the first but I am certain he won't be the last for sure.

And yes I agree totally KT.

I'd imagine that clubs listed on the Stock Exchange have to have a Board, but will have a majority shareholder.

My gut feeling is that clubs owned privately will also have a Board.... so for example Reading....

Reading Football Club ownership structure: 75% Owned by Renhe Sports Management Ltd, 100% owned by Xiu Li Dai and Yongge Dai. 25% Owned by Narin Niruttinanon

Reading F.C. Directors: Xiu Li Dai, Yongge Dai, Ronald Gourlay, Narin Niruttinanon, Nigel Howe

It would be of interest for someone to do the research.... but again gut feeling says it's easier to gain autocratic status as owner in a small lower league side than further up the pyramid.

Here's a handy guide to club ownership....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_owners_of_English_football_clubs

[BambooToTheFuture]

I think the only 'one of own' prospects, in recent times that we regret selling for a low fee is Billy Bodin. c£80k at the time seemed sensible for an ultimately 4 choice striker. However, I remember after his loan at Torquay he hit a wave of form and scored three or four in close succession. He was then sent to Crewe. For me (i'm no manager), that was the key point. He should've kept his place on merit. Returning from a loan and getting back into the squad, and providing goals - that is his job. He did that.

It was no secret that Benson, Connell, De Vita and come to think of it...Kerrouche were ahead of him. Right place, wrong time. No i'm not Paul Bodin but I'm happy he's taken an organic footballing route. Now in the Championship, was on the verge of the play-offs last season, with Preston. Wish him all the best.

Anyway, rumours...