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Question: Should we employ Phil 'tango' Brown as manager for next season?
Yes - 64 (59.8%)
No - 30 (28%)
Don't care - 13 (12.1%)
Total Voters: 107

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« Reply #375 on: Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 13:17:40 »

Or selling from a suitcase  Smiley

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« Reply #376 on: Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 18:32:01 »

I thought it was so that Putin could swing things like the Brexit vote and getting Trump elected.
Or promising all those millennials a free uni education, conveniently forgetting to tell them they’ll be taxed to death if or when they get a job to pay for it in future years.
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« Reply #377 on: Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 18:36:53 »

Or promising all those millennials a free uni education, conveniently forgetting to tell them they’ll be taxed to death if or when they get a job to pay for it in future years.

How old were you between 1962 and 1998? That was the period that university was free in this country. Introduced, of course, by Harold Macmillan's conservative Government.
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« Reply #378 on: Wednesday, May 16, 2018, 19:34:31 »

How old were you between 1962 and 1998? That was the period that university was free in this country. Introduced, of course, by Harold Macmillan's conservative Government.

And ruined by Blair's "university for all" approach that meant the governments bill suddenly got too big.
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Mind you only the seriously rich avoid the current 9% "tax" on tuition free repayments, ones that will never be repayed. Meanwhile even parents of moderate income are shafted on cost of living contributions thanks to the Tory cunts and spineless Lib Dems.
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I honestly don't think I'd have a problem with either of my kids avoiding uni altogether if they go into a trade.
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« Reply #379 on: Thursday, May 17, 2018, 00:43:16 »

Many seem to struggle with the concept of "Millennials" they get the grouping so wrong. Truth is a Millennial was born as early as 1980/81. It's all to do with the year you came "of age" and if you were about 18 in around 1997/98 (learning on the forefront of technological change, ie the internet) then you were one of the first Millennials. Though many wouldn't want to agree to that and my preference is not really to put people in boxes but it's been happening for a good hundred years or more. Below is the list of our cohorts thats are mostly still alive today;

The Greatest Gen: 1910-1924
CoA: 1928-1942
Age Today: 108-94
Historical Impact: Mostly our Soldiers of WWII. Those that survived were paraded as heroes. Their personal accounts preferred largely not to talk about what they saw. Helped in the restructuring of society with...
Status: Largely deceased

The Silent Gen: 1925-1945
CoA: 1943-1962
Age Today: 93-73
HI: Had a lot to live up to. Rose from the ashes of WWII. Times were tough but job creation was XXXX-fold and they got on with the job of restructuring society to some sense of normality and enabling the next bunch...
Status: Several deceased. Many still enjoying hard worked retirements.

Baby Boomers: 1946-1964
CoA: 1963-1982
Age Today: 72-54
HI: Free loving, reaping the benefits of their previous incumbents. Specifically during the 60s & 70s. You could get a job without any credentials. You could largely do what you wanted and it was passed of as "in the name of freedom". DNA wasn't a thing. The BBC was an orgy of sorts and the Police would wallop you if they wanted. Most were too stoned to fight anyway. It wasn't all sex and drugs though. It left many not knowing who their real Father was and many a Milkman was given a stern look. Towards the 80s all this burning the candle at both ends started to catch up with them. Unemployment started to rise and gave way to...
Status: Largely retired. Most took advantage of a fruitful period.

Gen X: 1965-1979
CoA: 1983-1997
Age Today: 53-39
HI: Poor old Gen X who had to pick up the exorbitant free love and partying of the Boomers. However, job creation was dropping off and unemployment was rising. The workplace took rise to "rules, rules, rules" (which of course was needed), with new H&S rules, etc incoming, it meant you could only really walk into a job if you knew the right people. Things were becoming more restrictive, you had to provide certificates and proof that you were competent and thus it was harder to get a job. If there were any!

Gen X still yearned for a piece of that Boomer pie, so the partying continued in sorts but less were working. It wasn't all bad. Gigs were cheap and so was Beer still (largely) and some of the best Rock and then Indie bands formed during this period, whilst not forgetting a rise of BritPop. If only there had been more employment Nationally, it would go down as a big success. Those pesky Boomers (although true, there's partial jealousy too), at least it was cheap to drown the sorrows. The weed and acid did filter through from the Boomer days, although this brought about more anxiety and the removal of serendipity.
Status: Mostly still in work. A few born near the Boomers may have got lucky. Most will be working until the Government says they can't - not when they can't.

Gen Y - Millennials: 1980-1994
CoA: 1998-2012
Age Today: 38-24
HI: Still in progress. The air of a digital age and the start of what looked like the rise from recession. prospects for early Millennials looked better than their previous, who had it toughish but weren't enabled to get out of it. This early surge of prosperity opened up an expectation that a Millennial could be anything they wanted and receive all the help to indeed achieve that. Not a bad deal on the surface. Even the Government told you in such words "Become an Astronaut, dead easy, we can train you.", "Become a Lawyer, study for 7 years, it's a piece of piss", "Study as a Medical Consultant Specialist, it's just like Law, except you get to look at bones and  organs and shit, yeah you can do that, no probs." Yes there was some early opportunity but then the reality was, who was really going to pay for it. After all the Government convinced them they should study further in sometimes unrealistic or difficult career paths, and that they'd "pay" for it. Of course this was a trick, and only papered over the cracks of the previous recessive era and it wasn't long before the Nation dipped again, and again.

Were/Are Millennials to blame for their own downfall? Not wholly as the Government did initially "Give, give, give" ceded to "Take back, take back, take back", but they have been largely naive in believing they could be and be entitled to whatever they wanted. It was the same story with credit, mortgages, and other loans. There seemed to be no understanding of who was going to actually foot the bill. Towards the end of the digital age the realisation had set in and those at the end of this period probably aren't as naive. They likely think Millennials be stupid to expect everything handed on a plate. It wasn't all bad though, as the crossover from digital age to mobile age changes hands, most Millennials find themselves in a fairly unique position of understanding how analogue/manual processes work still but also how the future of modern advances can be observed for good. It makes for a good blend and they must use this to their strength. Millennials set the shoots of this and will push it forward for the next bunch, if they don't they shall be known more so as Generation Debt...
Status: Largely in full time work but many suffering with the rise of Zero-hour contacts. Unique position of having it pretty good, whilst also having it pretty bad. Unless they adopt to more technological advances (or help it grow), they will likely work until they die. Even then the Government will probably still find a use for them.

Gen Z: 1995-2012
CoA: 2013-2030
Age Today: 23-6
HI: Mainly just starting out. Most still in School, College or Uni. A few early Z'ers being largely born into the digital world and CoA in the mobile age. It remains to be seen what the next 10 years may hold. Technologically they can be pioneers of new technologies within web monetisation and micropayments. Helping to enable many of the Worlds unbanked and also trying to stop the world from being totally destroyed by their predecessors and some of their own generation. They have a big ask and their downfall could well be the very technologies that they have been born unto. It is/does seem an exciting one. Some of these actually (if lucky) may become part of the first manned mission to Mars and so on, as we look to explore away from Earth further. Z'ers should be less naive than Millennials in the sense they won't be tricked into thinking they can have it all. With it being harder to obtain credit, there is a sense that early Z'ers/Late Mills will want to work hard for what they've got but will also want to spend it. The shift here is they're likely to spend it more so on experiencing things, rather than just material goods. Z'ers could be a good time to CoA. The main doubts will hinge on the outcome of Brexit and how the U.K recovers. This will be a big job for Gen Z, and the future of that is clearly to be decided. An air of caution would be; a lifestyle of wanting to become a "celebrity" (not in the traditional sense like a top artist), via Snapchat, Youtube, Instagram, etc could be their biggest drawback. There could be some short term gains but that area is incredibly disposable and must understand that you will easily be hurt. Online world is not the kindest of places. I'm sure they are far too aware of this. If not it may be left to...
Status: Whilst most are in education, there is an air of uncertainty with the implications of Brexit. If this wasn't the case they'd have the World at their feet, the luxury of learning from the naivety of the Millennials, and essentially no real excuses. Brexit throws them a curveball. It will still be an exciting period to CoA into and I wish them well.

Gen Alpha: 2013-
CoA: 2031-
Age Today: 5-
HI: Largely unknown. These young scamps will be generally unaware of what is in front of them yet. Owing to the future of our EU separation, we can only guess what they will have to deal with. Technologically these kids will have many opportunities regardless of the Brexit implications. It relies mainly on how the Z'ers before them respond and how it will then impact on them later. They should enjoy the simple things for now like learning to read, getting your proper teeth, petting animals, eating stuff and generally just having a carefree time (hmmm, maybe we all need a dose of this, even the teeth part!). There's a bit more time for them yet, so another decade will give us an idea of what should befall them.
Status: Largely unborn. A twinkle in many Millennials and some Z'ers eyes. A few will be starting education in September and I think we can all agree; enjoy school as much as you possibly can. It only gets harder!
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« Reply #380 on: Thursday, May 17, 2018, 00:44:31 »

...and after all that...it should really be in the Politics thread  Clap
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« Reply #381 on: Thursday, May 17, 2018, 04:37:17 »

Seeing as this thread has answered its own question with Brown being appointed maybe we could consign it to the dustbin and end this mindless drivel. The bollocks ratio is way too high.
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« Reply #382 on: Thursday, May 17, 2018, 07:06:45 »

...and after all that...it should really be in the Politics thread  Clap
Yes, politics would have been ideal...as would F1, Golf, British Touring Cars, Games...these are also threads I never look at...just for future reference.. Hmmm
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« Reply #383 on: Thursday, May 17, 2018, 09:52:58 »

 So PB is a boomer.
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« Reply #384 on: Thursday, May 17, 2018, 20:40:41 »

So PB is a boomer.
Yes I would guess so. It depends which sets of data you refer to though because as I'm sure you know, these Generational Cohorts are fairly flexible and can overlap. I'd say PB does fall into the Boomer category; not a swinging 60s adult but one of the 70s. I'm sure he remembers his time fondly, especially at Hartlepool and then Halifax. A diet of proper beer, proper pie, and proper gravy would likely have been his staple at the time. When men were men and all that jazz...
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« Reply #385 on: Thursday, May 17, 2018, 20:45:38 »

Yes, politics would have been ideal...as would F1, Golf, British Touring Cars, Games...these are also threads I never look at...just for future reference.. Hmmm

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« Reply #386 on: Thursday, May 17, 2018, 21:19:17 »

Yes I would guess so. It depends which sets of data you refer to though because as I'm sure you know, these Generational Cohorts are fairly flexible and can overlap. I'd say PB does fall into the Boomer category; not a swinging 60s adult but one of the 70s. I'm sure he remembers his time fondly, especially at Hartlepool and then Halifax. A diet of proper beer, proper pie, and proper gravy would likely have been his staple at the time. When men were men and all that jazz...

Seeing as Phil is a sand-dancer, I doubt he's completely cast off his roots....well maybe a bit of Grecian around the grey bits.
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« Reply #387 on: Thursday, May 17, 2018, 21:22:03 »

Seeing as Phil is a sand-dancer, I doubt he's completely cast off his roots....well maybe a bit of Grecian around the grey bits.


I'm sure he still enjoys a good pie. Shame he can't do anything about the catering situation. How many years are left on that 'contract' by the way?
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« Reply #388 on: Friday, May 18, 2018, 09:56:26 »

Yes, politics would have been ideal...as would F1, Golf, British Touring Cars, Games...these are also threads I never look at...just for future reference.. Hmmm

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« Reply #389 on: Friday, May 18, 2018, 19:29:59 »

I'm sure he still enjoys a good pie. Shame he can't do anything about the catering situation. How many years are left on that 'contract' by the way?
It was a 10-year deal
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