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Sir red ken

« Reply #225 on: Thursday, March 1, 2018, 17:39:06 »

Our best 3 CBs are injured. Any club would struggle to defend with that situation.

We certainly do not need Joleon Lescott.
Why's that? isn't he a defender. If we're 3 defenders down, would you suggest we get another striker as player manager!
We've lost games through bad defending and even worse goal keeping. Without those problems we'd be up in the autos.
Enlighten me to what's wrong with Lescott,he's available, would be brilliant at this level, yadda, yadda, yadda.
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« Reply #226 on: Thursday, March 1, 2018, 17:39:59 »

What basics did get right here? We’ve conceded more home goals than anyone else in L2.

As someone else on here repeated ad nauseum the majority of our results were a lottery - proven by our win one lose one form.

We haven’t hammered anyone and iirc we have only won 1 game at home by more than the odd goal. Those initial home games where the performances were truly dreadful are responsible for us shedding so many fans.

The bloke is a Neanderthal in footballing terms.
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« Reply #227 on: Thursday, March 1, 2018, 17:43:17 »

If any Mansfield fans still think we are trying to bullshit them (as I know several are reading this thread) and that its sour grapes that he has left us, then read this tweet from a Bury fan from before he signed for us.



Sounds familiar.
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Sir red ken

« Reply #228 on: Thursday, March 1, 2018, 17:44:05 »

What basics did get right here? We’ve conceded more home goals than anyone else in L2.

As someone else on here repeated ad nauseum the majority of our results were a lottery - proven by our win one lose one form.

We haven’t hammered anyone and iirc we have only won 1 game at home by more than the odd goal. Those initial home games where the performances were truly dreadful are responsible for us shedding so many fans.

The bloke is a Neanderthal in footballing terms.
Ageed and your correct on every point.
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« Reply #229 on: Thursday, March 1, 2018, 17:45:32 »

or just search for posts by RobertT in the matchday forum!
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« Reply #230 on: Thursday, March 1, 2018, 18:05:15 »

What basics did get right here? We’ve conceded more home goals than anyone else in L2.

As someone else on here repeated ad nauseum the majority of our results were a lottery - proven by our win one lose one form.

We haven’t hammered anyone and iirc we have only won 1 game at home by more than the odd goal. Those initial home games where the performances were truly dreadful are responsible for us shedding so many fans.

The bloke is a Neanderthal in footballing terms.

And scored more away goals than anybody else.   Basics, get defenders who can defend like Preston, don't worry if they're not clever with the ball, don't ask your keeper to play like Ederson. Get a couple of steady midfield players, that allow the more creative types to play.  Have a mix of experience and youth,  dotted about the park.  Have some players with pace as well as not worrying too much if you've a couple that don't.  Don't let individuals with over inflated senses of their worth get in the way of the team ethos... no I in team etc.  Have someone who can deliver a decent ball on set plays, so many goals will be scored that way.

Yes the home form was shit early doors, but it's difficult to bung a bunch of players together and it all to click. We've won all home games in 2018.

Flitters was undone by injuries and also a problem with midweek matches. The midweek thing perhaps a strain for the veterans and the young kids not yet battle hardened.

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« Reply #231 on: Thursday, March 1, 2018, 18:06:31 »

Flitcroft may well take Mansfield up tbf, they've got some really good players in their squad and no doubt they'll start quite well.... But If he's there in a years time I will be surprised, I know they've got lofty ambitions and I don't think hes the guy to deliver them. Evans probably would have been.
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« Reply #232 on: Thursday, March 1, 2018, 18:11:30 »

There are a lot of things in common between Evans and Flitcroft. Disliked by players, fans, with a level of lower league success.

I’d be staggered if Flitcroft is still employed as a manager above Conference North level at Evans’ age though.
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« Reply #233 on: Thursday, March 1, 2018, 18:19:01 »

And scored more away goals than anybody else.   Basics, get defenders who can defend like Preston, don't worry if they're not clever with the ball, don't ask your keeper to play like Ederson. Get a couple of steady midfield players, that allow the more creative types to play.  Have a mix of experience and youth,  dotted about the park.  Have some players with pace as well as not worrying too much if you've a couple that don't.  Don't let individuals with over inflated senses of their worth get in the way of the team ethos... no I in team etc.  Have someone who can deliver a decent ball on set plays, so many goals will be scored that way.

Yes the home form was shit early doors, but it's difficult to bung a bunch of players together and it all to click. We've won all home games in 2018.

Flitters was undone by injuries and also a problem with midweek matches. The midweek thing perhaps a strain for the veterans and the young kids not yet battle hardened.



Which amounts to a basic formula that any one of us could put together on a side of A4 inside 5 minutes. If that is the skill of the man, we all have it, without the disadvantage that we weren’t good at football beforehand to get a foot in the management door.

Anyway.... onwards. Good luck Matt Taylor. Let’s get on with getting promoted.
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« Reply #234 on: Thursday, March 1, 2018, 18:19:12 »

or just search for posts by RobertT in the matchday forum!

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« Reply #235 on: Thursday, March 1, 2018, 18:20:49 »

If any Mansfield fans still think we are trying to bullshit them (as I know several are reading this thread) and that its sour grapes that he has left us, then read this tweet from a Bury fan from before he signed for us.



Sounds familiar.

Apart from we don't have world class training facilities or a fantastic youth set up. We haven't seen any of the younger players brought in by Flitters like Knoyle, Woolery, Anderson RC-C be flogged yet.  When we've hit a bad patch we've bounced out reasonably quickly.

The bit about crowds not increasing would be right though, so that's familiar.
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« Reply #236 on: Thursday, March 1, 2018, 18:23:35 »

Well, some youngsters on the verge of the first team did seem to drop back a bit and Vigs has turned from potential small asset to liability and we are consistently inconsistent, which is a result of the approach which part of the reason crowds have declined.
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« Reply #237 on: Thursday, March 1, 2018, 18:27:20 »

Eerily accurate, as was the prediction he would try to convince you that a long ball hoofed to nobody was actually the product of new age sport science, ingenious tactical analysis and something to do with a microwave.
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« Reply #238 on: Thursday, March 1, 2018, 18:30:31 »

"We'll prepare, we'll scout them but, ultimately, it is about us, removing the shackles and going to play football."

A bit of a dig there?

Exactly how I read it
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« Reply #239 on: Thursday, March 1, 2018, 18:31:21 »

Which amounts to a basic formula that any one of us could put together on a side of A4 inside 5 minutes. If that is the skill of the man, we all have it, without the disadvantage that we weren’t good at football beforehand to get a foot in the management door.

Anyway.... onwards. Good luck Matt Taylor. Let’s get on with getting promoted.

But that is the template for much of English football.  You sex it up with data stats, video analysis and nutrition etc. It's why someone like a Warnock can pretty much guarantee you a promotion.
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