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« Reply #255 on: Friday, December 29, 2017, 17:30:09 »

JTR, why should DF have given him his place back automatically his ban was over? I wouldn’t have. The ban was the FL/FA punishment, the clubs would/should be an internal fine, apology to the rest of the team and second choice until you earn the respect of the management and players to get the No.1 shirt back.
Because at that point in time he was the better keeper.  Numerous players get bans, but generally if they are th3 strongest in that position, will reclaim their place when th3 ban is over. If something else went on behind the scenes fair enough, but that was never confirmed, it was just rumours about his attitude.  Vigoroux suddenly went from being 1st choice keeper to third behind Will Henry, which was nothing short of ridiculous.  

I am not sure he has performed any better than cook though has he?
Do you mean before or after his ban?
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« Reply #256 on: Friday, December 29, 2017, 20:04:15 »

Because at that point in time he was the better keeper.  Numerous players get bans, but generally if they are th3 strongest in that position, will reclaim their place when th3 ban is over. If something else went on behind the scenes fair enough, but that was never confirmed, it was just rumours about his attitude.  Vigoroux suddenly went from being 1st choice keeper to third behind Will Henry, which was nothing short of ridiculous.  
Do you mean before or after his ban?

Flitcroft clearly didn’t it think that did he? He’s the manager is he not? As you’ve succinctly pointed out ‘If something else went on behind the scenes fair enough,’ i’d Put money on it if I was a gambling man. Maybe he’ll be off in a week or so to pave the way for our new blow your socks off January transfer signings.
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« Reply #257 on: Friday, December 29, 2017, 21:16:50 »

I have no doubt that Vigeroux is the better ‘keeper and Flitcroft know it. At first I thought RCC looked okay but the more I’ve seen him, I can see that his footwork is terrible - it is no surprise he ‘just’ misses so shots that isn’t directly at him - especially higher up - because his balance must be all off.

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« Reply #258 on: Saturday, December 30, 2017, 06:46:26 »

Because at that point in time he was the better keeper.  Numerous players get bans, but generally if they are th3 strongest in that position, will reclaim their place when th3 ban is over. If something else went on behind the scenes fair enough, but that was never confirmed, it was just rumours about his attitude.  Vigoroux suddenly went from being 1st choice keeper to third behind Will Henry, which was nothing short of ridiculous.  
Do you mean before or after his ban?

I’m with you.

The timing went something like this:

26 Sept - Vigs plays vs Coventry, and is sent off post-match. We’ll never know exactly what was said or done, but if he lost his rag in the tunnel, which is presumably the case, Flitcroft must have been aware of it at the time.

30 Sept - Vigs plays vs Cambridge and keeps a clean sheet.

W/C 2 Oct - Vigs is suspended and Flitcroft mouths off about how appalling his behaviour was, how Flitcroft was brought up better and would never stoop to such levels, blah blah.

If Flitcroft was willing to be so quick to take the moral high ground and publicly slag him off, then he simply shouldn’t have picked him versus Cambridge in the meantime. Once he’d picked him in that game, he just needed to put up and shut up.

Part of the problem was we’d hit fairly good form at the time, and whenever we do that Flitcroft relaxes and starts acting like a prick. We saw something similar in late November, when firstly he clearly viewed the Grimsby game as an inconvenience (only took half a bench, full of defenders... told the Adver we should never be going up there on a Tuesday night and he’d rather be at home watching Midsomer Murders), and then straight afterwards got all Total Football with his selections, doing the stupid thing with Taylor and Iandolo which I don’t think I’ve heard a single fan agree with.
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« Reply #259 on: Saturday, December 30, 2017, 09:53:51 »

I’m with you.

The timing went something like this:

this is an assumption right?

26 Sept - Vigs plays vs Coventry, and is sent off post-match. We’ll never know exactly what was said or done, but if he lost his rag in the tunnel, which is presumably the case, Flitcroft must have been aware of it at the time.

are you sure Flitcroft was in full possession of the facts? He may have at that juncture only LV’s version of events and although aware of an incident was waiting the refs report

30 Sept - Vigs plays vs Cambridge and keeps a clean sheet.

W/C 2 Oct - Vigs is suspended and Flitcroft mouths off about how appalling his behaviour was, how Flitcroft was brought up better and would never stoop to such levels, blah blah.

this is where I think everything came out and LV was shown to be the villain. You have to understand that the tail does not wag the dog no matter how rabid the dog is. DF acted accordingly as the manager and as he saw fit, you have to accept that.

If Flitcroft was willing to be so quick to take the moral high ground and publicly slag him off, then he simply shouldn’t have picked him versus Cambridge in the meantime. Once he’d picked him in that game, he just needed to put up and shut up.

Part of the problem was we’d hit fairly good form at the time, and whenever we do that Flitcroft relaxes and starts acting like a prick. We saw something similar in late November, when firstly he clearly viewed the Grimsby game as an inconvenience (only took half a bench, full of defenders... told the Adver we should never be going up there on a Tuesday night and he’d rather be at home watching Midsomer Murders), and then straight afterwards got all Total Football with his selections, doing the stupid thing with Taylor and Iandolo which I don’t think I’ve heard a single fan agree with.
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« Reply #260 on: Saturday, December 30, 2017, 17:47:55 »


I wish you'd learn to use the quote function properly Wink
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« Reply #261 on: Saturday, December 30, 2017, 18:55:47 »

I wish you'd learn to use the quote function properly Wink

Me too.....
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« Reply #262 on: Saturday, December 30, 2017, 18:57:27 »


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« Reply #263 on: Saturday, December 30, 2017, 19:19:15 »

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« Reply #264 on: Saturday, December 30, 2017, 21:32:59 »


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« Reply #265 on: Sunday, December 31, 2017, 07:34:14 »

I have no doubt that Vigeroux is the better ‘keeper and Flitcroft know it. At first I thought RCC looked okay but the more I’ve seen him, I can see that his footwork is terrible - it is no surprise he ‘just’ misses so shots that isn’t directly at him - especially higher up - because his balance must be all off.


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« Reply #266 on: Monday, January 1, 2018, 14:45:01 »

lolololololol RCC save v Notts County. Yeah he has no awareness at all...and isn't young enough to learn more and get better..... Pint Pint Pint Pint
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