General Election - Who's Getting Your Vote?

[pauld]

Labour have no chance for various reasons, one of which is the strength of the propaganda against them / in favour of the Tories.

No propaganda needed when Labour leadership are busy focusing on the real enemy in this election - their own members and activists, trying to get rid of one of the most despised members of the government

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/09/labour-expels-south-west-surrey-members-attempt-unseat-jeremy-hunt

[ron dodgers]

they'll get reinstated on appeal, unless of course they have broken the rules.

[pauld]

they'll get reinstated on appeal, unless of course they have broken the rules.

They have broken the rules. Bloody stupid to expel them for trying to unseat the Minister for Rhyming Slang, though.

[ghanimah]

Labour have no chance for various reasons, one of which is the strength of the propaganda against them / in favour of the Tories.

Labour have tended to blame the media for their failings, it's the political equivalent of the Tories in the past who claimed "we're not getting our message across" as the excuse for losing. Nope, the message has come across loud and clear and the electorate don't like it. Thus it's a patronising view to take regarding the voters if nothing else.

Labour are going to lose heavily (barring any unforeseen circumstances) because they have chosen an inept Marxist clown to represent them in a GE. No amount of media coverage positive or otherwise is going to change that.

[Reg Smeeton]

Labour have tended to blame the media for their failings, it's the political equivalent of the Tories in the past who claimed "we're not getting our message across" as the excuse for losing. Nope, the message has come across loud and clear and the electorate don't like it. Thus it's a patronising view to take regarding the voters if nothing else.

Labour are going to lose heavily (barring any unforeseen circumstances) because they have chosen an inept Marxist clown to represent them in a GE. No amount of media coverage positive or otherwise is going to change that.

A lot of evidence suggests that many people quite like policies like renationalising the railways...rent capping for private landlords, making sure the corporate sector pays its fair share of tax.

Even the Tories have lifted Milliband's thing on checking power companies for over charging.

However Corbyn and Labour fucked up badly over Europe... on such decisions are elections are won and lost.  

People who voted for Brexit want to believe the lies of the Tory right...therefore will give them a chance to deliver.

Labour should have followed the 1974 manifesto pledge, to leave the Common Market...unless there were significant reforms and hold a referendum on the outcome.

[Chubbs]

For those interested here's a run down of Labours leaked draft manifesto.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39879113

The question on everyone mind is the same. How will all this be funded. I don't believe for 1 second this can all be funded by the tax increase on the 5% highest earners.

[LucienSanchez]

Increase, not decrease, in corporation tax will help

[Reg Smeeton]

For those interested here's a run down of Labours leaked draft manifesto.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39879113

The question on everyone mind is the same. How will all this be funded. I don't believe for 1 second this can all be funded by the tax increase on the 5% highest earners.

There are many ways of raising extra funds, as LS mentions, even keeping Corporation Tax at its present level would help, not raising inheritance tax to a mill, rather than its present 300K or so.

Tightening up of rules on inheritance tax, whereby the Grosvenor Estate, can be left a son in a form of a Trust, and so be completely exempt, would help.

The Tory right now in government pointed out that £350 mill a week could be spent on the NHS, now we are leaving the EU.

[pauld]

Increase, not decrease, in corporation tax will help

That would greatly eclipse the top 5% thing, it's just that the top 5% is what the media are focusing on because:
a) It makes a better headline (bash the rich and all that)
b) It helps make their pre-determined case that this is silly and unrealistic, instead of actually analysing whether it might be.
Actually collecting all the tax due would help too.
And yes I'm also aware that there's a danger that if the corporation tax is too punitive, then it may be a case of diminishing returns. But given that some of the corporations most likely to be able to jump territories are also the ones that are most active at not paying any tax here anyway, that's probably a moot point.

[Simon Pieman]

Corporation Tax receipts are at a record high so the situation is improving. Obviously a number of factors but shows that concentrating on things other than the rate of tax can make a massive difference.

Source: https://www.ft.com/content/ca3e5bd2-2a7e-11e7-9ec8-168383da43b7

Removing many of the reliefs would simplify our tax system and generate more tax revenues that simply increasing percentages in many cases

[Richhants]

Conservative.

[Sir Cliff Pipehard]

The irony of the Tory "Strong and stable" message is that Theresa May looks weak and unstable.

She looks like a rabbit in the headlights when she isn't just reading a script she's been given.

She looks totally out of her depth,that whole One show nonsense with her twatty husband was absolutely cringeworthy.
 She has to be protected from actually meeting anyone who might ask her a question she's not prepared for.

She reminds me of the teacher at school who was easy to wind up and bring to tears and was always having time off with a nervous breakdown.

 

[herthab]

Conservative.

Shittest. First. Post. Ever.

[herthab]

The irony of the Tory "Strong and stable" message is that Theresa May looks weak and unstable.

She looks like a rabbit in the headlights when she isn't just reading a script she's been given.

She looks totally out of her depth,that whole One show nonsense with her twatty husband was absolutely cringeworthy.
 She has to be protected from actually meeting anyone who might ask her a question she's not prepared for.

She reminds me of the teacher at school who was easy to wind up and bring to tears and was always having time off with a nervous breakdown.

 

She's a cunt. And not a nice, jokey, cunt. A horrible, poisonous one.

[Berniman]

Did you get hurt or violated by a conservative voter in a previous life?  You post very aggressive when people post anything pro conservative..