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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 20:50:51 »

What do you think happened in this case? That he got off on a technicality? I haven't followed the detail.

No idea, I haven't heard all the evidence. Just commenting on the innocent vs not guilty debate
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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 21:07:10 »

You're innocent until proven guilty, therefore a not guilty verdict is practically the same as calling it an innocent verdict
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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 21:29:50 »

Blah blah blah blah... he's not guilty.
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« Reply #18 on: Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 21:57:16 »

I think I'm right in saying that in Scottish law, they do have a separate 'unproven' verdict or something which means they probably did it but not beyond reasonable doubt. Not relevant, just a vague memory of a law course I once did.

I think in Scottish law, "Not Proven" means the accused could be retried later, presumably in the light of further evidence. 
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« Reply #19 on: Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 22:02:39 »

Being found 'not guilty' does not prove the person to be 'innocent'.

If the judge or jury are not convinced beyond a reasonable doubt, then they must deliver a verdict of not guilty. This does not mean that the defendant is innocent. It means only that the prosecution did not convince the judge or jury beyond a reasonable doubt.

Ince may or may not therefore be innocent of the alleged offence but the court failed to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he was guilty.

Good luck with your upcoming jury service Sippo!  Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 22:04:06 »

Not guilty or innocent, who gives a fuck if it means he can start adding a bit of bollocks to our eunuchy midfield.
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« Reply #21 on: Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 22:13:51 »

Not guilty or innocent, who gives a fuck if it means he can start adding a bit of bollocks to our eunuchy midfield.

If our fearless leader decides to play him of course
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« Reply #22 on: Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 22:38:02 »

Careful, don't want to unsettle the balance of the side...
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« Reply #23 on: Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 22:40:31 »

...I would suggest Williams is careful when he tells him he's not playing - Hide all the Jack Daniels bottles first!  Grin
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« Reply #24 on: Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 22:42:18 »

Being found 'not guilty' does not prove the person to be 'innocent'.

If the judge or jury are not convinced beyond a reasonable doubt, then they must deliver a verdict of not guilty. This does not mean that the defendant is innocent. It means only that the prosecution did not convince the judge or jury beyond a reasonable doubt.

Ince may or may not therefore be innocent of the alleged offence but the court failed to prove beyond reasonable doubt that he was guilty.

Good luck with your upcoming jury service Sippo!  Smiley

That was what I was getting at. Nicely put sir!   Yes 
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« Reply #25 on: Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 22:48:21 »

Whatever...

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« Reply #26 on: Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 22:51:01 »

Careful, don't want to unsettle the balance of the side...

Yep, all the players deserve the starting spot so dont want to disrupt it.
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« Reply #27 on: Thursday, February 16, 2017, 00:24:07 »

I can't believe more people haven't pointed out the true disgrace in the situation which is having a statement on a sodding Wednesday.
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« Reply #28 on: Thursday, February 16, 2017, 00:44:47 »

I can't believe more people haven't pointed out the true disgrace in the situation which is having a statement on a sodding Wednesday.

INCE OUT!
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« Reply #29 on: Thursday, February 16, 2017, 01:45:20 »

INCE OUT!

Is Rohan in any way related to Paul  Hmmm
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