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« on: Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 19:08:45 »

So Ince has been cleared at court today. Hopefully he'll be straight back in the side on Saturday...
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« Reply #1 on: Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 19:15:28 »

Who will Williams drop? Can't be Jones with Branco suspended.
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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 19:18:38 »

just hoping colkett and gladwin aren't must plays/ financially disadvantage us so much that if they don't play we are knackered.

feruz we can discard barring injuries.

but if we only have the option to pick between Jones and ince it'll be ridiculous
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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 19:20:04 »

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Who will Williams drop? Can't be Jones with Branco suspended.
it can be. Thompson and thingy at conroy, brophy and boo fb, Thomas if he insists at back 3.
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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 19:28:19 »

So Ince has been cleared at court today. Hopefully he'll be straight back in the side on Saturday...
Wouldn't help us even if it were Paul Ince.
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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 19:36:43 »

Wouldn't help us even if it were Paul Ince.
He was rubbish for us anyway
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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 19:37:03 »

He was found 'not guilty' which is technically not the same as 'innocent'.
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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 19:50:19 »

He was found 'not guilty' which is technically not the same as 'innocent'.

Maybe not in your mind, but technically it is.
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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 20:11:30 »

He was found 'not guilty' which is technically not the same as 'innocent'.

Ha I was going to say this, but yeah.. In terms of legality/morality not the same at all, in terms of him playing for us in the future, pretty much an irrelevant distinction.
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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 20:14:17 »

Fucking hell. In the eyes of the law he's innocent. If you're not guilty of something, you must therefore be innocent.
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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 20:23:06 »

Fucking hell. In the eyes of the law he's innocent. If you're not guilty of something, you must therefore be innocent.

Effectively, this. He's "not guilty", which the court doesn't distinguish from innocent. Some rather odd implications from usually liberal-minded posters here.
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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 20:25:27 »

I think I'm right in saying that in Scottish law, they do have a separate 'unproven' verdict or something which means they probably did it but not beyond reasonable doubt. Not relevant, just a vague memory of a law course I once did.
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« Reply #12 on: Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 20:37:43 »

I think I'm right in saying that in Scottish law, they do have a separate 'unproven' verdict or something which means they probably did it but not beyond reasonable doubt. Not relevant, just a vague memory of a law course I once did.

What do you think happened in this case? That he got off on a technicality? I haven't followed the detail.
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« Reply #13 on: Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 20:41:53 »

they failed to establish identity, and the defence expert witness was able to put doubt on validity of victims blood on ince clothes.

police dropped a bollock by trying to get CCTV too late, it had been erased.

he's not guilty, end of..
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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday, February 15, 2017, 20:43:13 »

This reminds me. I have jury service on 6th March.

Should be fun. Or not, as some have said.
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