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« on: Wednesday, August 10, 2016, 11:35:35 »

I need SEO for my website. I've created countless back-links for clients myself with blogging in the past so I thought I'd have a go at doing it myself, there's not a great deal of competition for the 1st page.

The site is in Thai though, which rules out me creating back-links through writing articles as I can't write in Thai and I doubt many blog site owners would even accept links to a Thai language site.

I did think about having an English language page on the site and using that page to link back-links to, and then use internal links to boost the Thai pages. Would that work? Any alternative/better options?
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« Reply #1 on: Wednesday, August 10, 2016, 12:17:52 »

Sorry fh, don't know what your on about.  Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday, August 10, 2016, 12:19:00 »

Barry Scott is your man for this
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« Reply #3 on: Wednesday, August 10, 2016, 12:21:20 »

Yeah, I did have Barry in mind when posting this, hoping he logs in soon.
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« Reply #4 on: Wednesday, August 10, 2016, 12:55:55 »

Got a link to the site?
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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday, August 10, 2016, 13:23:07 »

http://thailandcctv.wixsite.com/cctv

I'll be getting a proper domain in the coming days
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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday, August 10, 2016, 15:01:41 »

http://thailandcctv.wixsite.com/cctv

I'll be getting a proper domain in the coming days

It's tough, because Google are getting smarter so they actually rate a lot of a site's SEO based on:

- build quality of the website (quality of the code etc)
- whether it works on mobile
- how often the content gets updated
- remove the Meta keywords if you can
- add England and Thai in the Meta description

So they're actually trying to stop people forcing their way to the top of search results my making sure people are creating quality & new content on a quality website.

Not sure if that helps?
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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday, August 10, 2016, 17:04:32 »

It's not really the on-site optimisation I'm stuck on.
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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday, August 10, 2016, 17:35:36 »

Not an seo expert but web developer of 14 years (ish) and done seo for all my clients (but don't class myself as an seo, I just advise on how to implement an seo strategy).

tldr: get your articles written in english then pay someone like Gengo.com to translate for you, get them written in thai and get backlinks in thai so you are getting the maxiumum benefit from thai websites.

if you are trying to get ranked for thai keywords, you would need thai based backlinks, they can be in english (some thai websites are in english) but if you want to target thai people then it's better to get it in thai.

Backlinks are a small part of an seo strategy, page titles, page content, meta descriptions, optimised images are also a big part. There are 2 aspects of seo which are onsite and offsite, the above are onsite and offsite is basically backlinks.

I wouldn't bother with backlinks until the onsite stuff is sorted, get that right and the backlinks will matter less as website owners (and users) will backlink without you asking. Make your content that good that they want to share your website Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday, August 10, 2016, 17:54:36 »

Cheers Gareth
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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday, August 10, 2016, 19:21:36 »

It's not really the on-site optimisation I'm stuck on.

Just aside from content and linking things you can do to improve SEO, those are just things that can be done to the site itself to improve your search engine rankings.
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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday, August 10, 2016, 20:19:19 »

Try http://www.smarter-search.co.uk/about.php

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« Reply #12 on: Sunday, August 14, 2016, 20:32:23 »

Sadly, I'm no expert. I've dabbled, but the long and short of it is, along with on page factors, is Google is fundamentally against active SEO. So any "experts" will eventually get you sandboxed or you'll lose your new found ranking.

The trouble is Google is far more intelligent than you or I, and the algorithms they have in place to spot it are neither shared nor known and many proper SEO people will guard their testing closely as it will give them a bit of an edge.

I suspect the biggest issue is things like using Webmaster Tools (Search Console) as it could be speculated that if you're actively monitoring your site, then you're likely doing SEO and in essence are providing Google with a big red flag from the get go.

It could further be argued that as you monitor bad link alerts and things in WMT, the way you react, and perhaps disavow links, will tell Google a lot about what you are or are not doing in terms of SEO.

If bad links, and lots of them, could always negatively impact a site's position in the SERPS, we could all go Google Bowling and take out all our competition by sending 50,000 Xrumer links from forum profiles and bad neighbourhoods.

There's shit loads of speculation and even more "experts" who are simply snake oil salesman who long term will perhaps cause problems.

Moz is arguably decent, and publishes good stuff, but a lot of people will tell you Rand Fishkin is full of shit and talks a good game. I've always considered Tommy Griffith and Neil Patel THE experts. I'm aware that the ClickMinded SEO course (Tommy Griffith) is considered superb and I believe is available by torrent. Much the same I'd guess for Patel's Quick Sprout stuff.

I no longer game Google and barely do SEO. I just keep the onpage tight and pretty much ignore all else. I ranked a site top on a VERY competitive term, from doing only that.

I went to seminar many years ago and an SEO gave a talk where he said that if you're legit, that's all you want to do. Do that and publish good fresh content on your site (and elsewhere) and you'll be grand. Allow natural growth and link patterns, because when all is said and done Google knows more and sees more than we can ever possibly grasp or hope to reverse engineer. In my opinion, idle speculation and following the newest SEO trends are a route to being lost in the serps.

Jesus I've babbled.

I'll pm you, unlikely tonight. And I'll get my Skype turned on for you as well!

Have a look at Patel's blog. https://www.quicksprout.com/blog/

I'm sure some intelligent speculation can be found here as well. https://www.serpwoo.com/blog/
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« Reply #13 on: Monday, August 15, 2016, 11:28:23 »

Cheers Bazza.
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