Euro 2016

[suttonred]

Well that's the referendum, our economy, the future of the UK and the Euros all fucked up within the space of a few days.  What's next on the list?

Planet X and the pole shifts

[Reg Smeeton]

Pick a man with 28 caps for Jamaica, that'll sort everything out

the indefinite article is the clue....Morgan is English, could have been picked before he opted for Jamaica, but because he was Championship wouldn't happen.  Who's to say there aren't others who could do a job, if the manager wants to try and create a sort of difficult to beat ugly side.

Certainly a few of the Icelanders are Championship type players.

[Kinky Tom]

Flint for England

[suttonred]

I disagree with the thoughts this team is capable.  I think it was two years ago that I posted that not one player in pro football that would change our fortunes as a national team.  I stand by that.  We just don't produce the right sort of players.  This Premier League shit is getting right up my nose as well - so what if someone scored 20+ goals in our league, it's a fucking unique league.  Football isn't played that way in any other country or any tournament so it's all irrelevant to a degree.  The players who do well in our league from abroad have the right upbringing before they play here.

Our players have zero individuality, zero brain cells (they are simply not educated alongside being footballers) and cannot think for themselves and confidence in their technique as a result.  You could probably put someone like Allardyce in charge and get them to perform a little better with a defined systems (he works well because having a defined system removes some of the need for footballing intelligence) but we'd still be average.

Last year at the end of season bash. MC said the last thing he did with one player before kick off was show him a photo of the player he should mark at set pieces, anything else was wasted and wouldn't be understood. Probably a little indiscreet, but very interesting, as it's a common theme bought up about a lack of intelligence/thought within football.

[RobertT]

Graham Taylor tried putting a load of shit players into a team to see if that would work, it didn't.

[RobertT]

Last year at the end of season bash. MC said the last thing he did with one player before kick off was show him a photo of the player he should mark at set pieces, anything else was wasted and wouldn't be understood. Probably a little indiscreet, but very interesting, as it's a common theme bought up about a lack of intelligence/thought within football.

Because in our country getting to be a pro is often seen as being the end all.  In my time at school, everyone of any talent was a bit towards the bottom of classes, because they thought they were going to make it in football and didn't worry about education so much.  The when you get players who do make it into the pro game, they really think they are gods.  Many of the leagues we look down on create some of the best footballing nations.

[RobertT]

It's not the be all and end all, you still need to nurture a variety of talent, something we've really been bad in more recent times because we try to produce identikit players these days.  Our footballers are just plain "soft in the head" and don't have enough variety in the feet to outweigh that.

[Jimmy Glass is an Alien]

That game has made no impact on me at all. I've lost all passion for the national side, and its highly unlikely to return any time soon. Get a di Canio type in that would make it interesting and ignite the passion.

[Reg Smeeton]

Graham Taylor tried putting a load of shit players into a team to see if that would work, it didn't.

Maybe the time has come again....btw, I'm not thinking about winning much here, but rather accepting our limitations and trying to at least retain a bit of dignity.

[Tails]

That Iceland chant is class.

[Pax Romana]

Hodgson is no great shakes but our problem is not the manager.  We have had a stream of managers of all types, all of whom have run into the same problem.  The style of play expected in England doesn't translate into successful international football.  Now compounded by the PL wealth which makes mediocre 21 year-olds on absurd contracts think that they know it all.

Didn't watch the game but don't suppose it was any different to the litany of abject England performances that a succession of self-satisfied squads have produced over the years.  

[adje]

That Iceland chant is class.

Yes mate,very intimidating and effective

[chalkies_shorts]

Typical town performance. Plenty of possession. Lots of fucking around. Very little action in their box and defensively fucking shit.
Fantastic for Iceland. They showed us up. We knew what to expect and still fucked it up. Rooney was total fucking wank as a player and captain. Joe hsrt has been coached by John Granville.

[RobertT]

Maybe the time has come again....btw, I'm not thinking about winning much here, but rather accepting our limitations and trying to at least retain a bit of dignity.

Who could play Carlton Palmer in this remake?

[Reg Smeeton]

Yes mate,very intimidating and effective

A hint of the Berserker....