Euro 2016

[The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey]

I think individually those players are very capable of putting in performances to win a major tournament.

But collectively, they lack belief, determination, purpose and leadership. That has to sit on Hodgson's shoulders.

The tactics were appalling. We couldn't even defend a long throw FFS.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey]

The Harlem Globetrotters of football

[suttonred]

I think individually those players are very capable of putting in performances to win a major tournament.

But collectively, they lack belief, determination, purpose and leadership. That has to sit on Hodgson's shoulders.

The tactics were appalling. We couldn't even defend a long throw FFS.

Been the same for 40 years and still seems to be surprise. We're a smallish island with an average team. Anyway well done Iceland, you knew how to play us, and did it perfectly.

[Private Fraser]

Yes, well done Iceland. 

[Flashheart]

Joe Hart is dire, HIS defence is terrified!

[Private Fraser]

Well, at least Woy hasn't kept people guessing.  He's a decent man but there was nothing else he could do but to leave with some dignity.

[RobertT]

I disagree with the thoughts this team is capable.  I think it was two years ago that I posted that not one player in pro football that would change our fortunes as a national team.  I stand by that.  We just don't produce the right sort of players.  This Premier League shit is getting right up my nose as well - so what if someone scored 20+ goals in our league, it's a fucking unique league.  Football isn't played that way in any other country or any tournament so it's all irrelevant to a degree.  The players who do well in our league from abroad have the right upbringing before they play here.

Our players have zero individuality, zero brain cells (they are simply not educated alongside being footballers) and cannot think for themselves and confidence in their technique as a result.  You could probably put someone like Allardyce in charge and get them to perform a little better with a defined systems (he works well because having a defined system removes some of the need for footballing intelligence) but we'd still be average.

[Flashheart]

I'm sure they should at least be able to manage to pass the ball to each other though.

[RobertT]

They can, when not under pressure, but they have zero ability to think for themselves and work it out, the pressure comes on and they react as any thick cunt would by going to pieces.

[Private Fraser]

Well that's the referendum, our economy, the future of the UK and the Euros all fucked up within the space of a few days.  What's next on the list?

[RobertT]

I get a sense that even Sterling is being coached out of being a good footballer.  The closest we probably have to something unique (but I still don't rate him as being good enough).

[RobertT]

If I thought he was in it for the long haul Guardiola could be a spark to change things at youth levell, but I doubt he'll stick around long enough to affect the conveyor belt.

[adje]

Team with a strong heart beats team with a weak hart

[Reg Smeeton]

 You could probably put someone like Allardyce in charge and get them to perform a little better with a defined systems (he works well because having a defined system removes some of the need for footballing intelligence) but we'd still be average.

I think an Allardyce or Pulis is the way to go....probably Sam as he's Engilsh.  Play it like a relegation battle....maybe pick some from the Championship, like a Wes Morgan who kicked around there for years.

[Nemo]

Pick a man with 28 caps for Jamaica, that'll sort everything out