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« Reply #15 on: Tuesday, December 22, 2015, 23:18:38 »

I haven't got a fucking clue what any of you are talking about, complete gibberish

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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday, December 23, 2015, 09:23:02 »

So hopefully TFA has set the ground-work for a good series of films to build upon and let us learn who Snoke is (Plagueis?), where Rey comes from, what the First Order actually is (because they haven't really told us much about it), how Ren develops further into a Sith-wannabe...

Star Wars has a history of not going all Basil Exposition on things, the Clone Wars was mentioned in IV but not explained any further, likewise the Senate. I kinda like it that way, keeps people's interactions a little more believable, not like in real life folk behave like "Oh yes, I've heard of WW2, remind me what happened again?"

Bloody loved VII for what it's worth, the lass who plays Rey was a little wooden at first but seemed to settle into a bit more. Laughed way more than I have at several big 'comedies' of recent years, a genuine 'oh!' moment when
Kylo Ren's parentage was revealed and as said above, as soon as Han walked out onto that bridge I knew he was a gonner, but really had hoped I was wrong.

The Star Killer planet's end was a little too much Deathstar 3.0, but I think Abhrams and co can be forgiven a little bit for the way they're reinvigorated the series...

Oh, and Simon Pegg was the scrap dealer alien fella who tried to buy BB-8, and Daniel Craig was the Trooper that Rey mind-controlled.
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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday, December 23, 2015, 09:31:41 »

Oh, and Simon Pegg was the scrap dealer alien fella who tried to buy BB-8, and Daniel Craig was the Trooper that Rey mind-controlled.

I knew these. I was telling my missus "That guy is Simon Pegg!" and "That Stormtrooper is Daniel Craig!"
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« Reply #18 on: Wednesday, December 23, 2015, 17:18:26 »

Just read this, which was fairly interesting: http://hellogiggles.com/theory-rey-star-wars/

Think I'm leaning towards the latter most theory.
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« Reply #19 on: Thursday, December 24, 2015, 11:07:44 »

Rey doesn't have to be related to anyone. Some people are just spontaneously are gifted in the force. She probably will be though because it's a lazy way to make us invested in her as a character.

I enjoyed the film, but JJ Abrams thinks he is a much better film maker than he is. The iconic music was massively underused, there were too many ripped off shots from other films, every major plot point was telegraphed to hell,  and the ending was a bit dull and lifeless. It would have made for a better film if the Starkiller had only been severely damaged instead of destroyed at the end. The use of practical props, costumes and effects over cgi ones was about as obnoxious at times as the special editions were. It felt more like hitchhikers guide to the galaxy than star wars at moments.

There was no sympathy or connection for the audience for the planets destroyed - what planet was it? In ANH we are invested in Leia and they dangle her home planet 'a peaceful place!' in front of her and threaten to destroy it unless she tells them where the rebels are. She tells them and then they go ahead and blow the fucker up anyway. That makes you invested in the planet and hate the baddies. Was the one destroyed here supposed to be coruscant? That would make sense but I spoke to several people who have no idea what it was as I don't remember it being explained.

What also got me was the Republic and the Reistance are not the same thing. Wouldn't the Republic have an invested interest in stopping some ex-empire splinter group who have been kidnapping children from around the galaxy building a planet-sized death star? You would think they would do more than just 'supply' the resistance. The Republic fleet is mentioned but never appears. Seems a bit odd.

He may well answer some of these in the sequels but if he does its a tad late.

Also 'Snoke' is a stupid name.
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« Reply #20 on: Thursday, December 24, 2015, 11:13:20 »

Abrams is apparently not directing the next one.
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« Reply #21 on: Thursday, December 24, 2015, 11:44:12 »

What also got me was the Republic and the Reistance are not the same thing. Wouldn't the Republic have an invested interest in stopping some ex-empire splinter group who have been kidnapping children from around the galaxy building a planet-sized death star? You would think they would do more than just 'supply' the resistance. The Republic fleet is mentioned but never appears. Seems a bit odd.

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« Reply #22 on: Thursday, December 24, 2015, 12:57:39 »

Sorry Mr Abrams, I should have read up on the back story before going instead of presuming I could just go and see the film.

(Thanks though Samdy, where's that from?)
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« Reply #23 on: Thursday, December 24, 2015, 14:00:01 »

I found it on /r/starwars.
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« Reply #24 on: Thursday, December 24, 2015, 16:14:46 »

Rey is going to be Skywalker jnr isn't she?
Well I think she will be if I was to have a punt on it.
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« Reply #25 on: Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 18:21:22 »

Just seen it. I do like Star Wars, but that was actually quite disappointing. It might a well have been a remake of IV and VI for all that happened. Seriously the empire need to up their planning beyond BUILD A BIGGER DEATH STAR WITH ONE TINY WEAKNESS AGAIN WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG.

Oh, and why cast Gwendoline Christie and Lupita Nyongo'o and let neither act?
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« Reply #26 on: Tuesday, December 29, 2015, 18:42:30 »

Apparently Captain Phasma has a bigger role in the next film.
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« Reply #27 on: Wednesday, December 30, 2015, 19:50:45 »

The Disney Star Wars game seems to suggest that she is the cousin of Kylo Ren.

http://www.theladbible.com/articles/disney-just-accidentally-dropped-an-absolutely-massive-star-wars-spoiler

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« Reply #28 on: Thursday, December 31, 2015, 08:19:45 »

He doesn't say cousin though, he says curses.
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« Reply #29 on: Thursday, December 31, 2015, 09:18:57 »

yup, definitely 'curses'.
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