Paris - terrorist attack

[Ironside]

The problem is what is the end-game for this conflict?

There is nothing IS wants, in terms of negotiation, apart from killing infidels.

They want more than to kill infidels though, don't they?

[Flashheart]

Honestly, I'm struggling to work out what  you're actually saying.

Correct me if I'm wrong but you appear to be against all religions but you're also an anti-athiest?

I'm an atheist, which means that I do not believe in any god.

I'm also an anti-theist, which means I oppose religion, because of the harm that it does.

[Skinny Pete]

TBH though, Flash, do you not think that if there was no religion people would still behave as they do now but for a different reason?

I've come to the conclusion that the extremist stuff is just the human condition

[Ironside]

I'm an atheist, which means that I do not believe in any god.

I'm also an anti-theist, which means I oppose religion, because of the harm that it does.

Cheers, now that makes sense.

[Flashheart]

TBH though, Flash, do you not think that if there was no religion people would still behave as they do now but for a different reason?

I've come to the conclusion that the extremist stuff is just the human condition

Look at the Scandinavian countries which are atheistic/secular. They have some of the lowest crime rates one the planet. Google is your friend.

[Samdy Gray]

The problem is what is the end-game for this conflict?

They believe they are fulfilling a prophecy. They wish to establish a global Caliphate and annihilate anybody that doesn't follow their radical form of Islam. They also believe that there is soon to be an apocalypse and their current efforts will appease their almighty god on their Day of Judgement.

[Skinny Pete]

But then you had that fella who went on the rampage in Norway. Religion or not, some humans are just programmed that way.

I honestly despair about us

[bullethead]

TBH though, Flash, do you not think that if there was no religion people would still behave as they do now but for a different reason?

I've come to the conclusion that the extremist stuff is just the human condition

Gotta say, think this is right. Used to blame it on religion but it does seem that sad inadequate people will hang their hat on any cause that gives their life (and death) meaning.

[Flashheart]

40% of British Muslims want Sharia law imposed on Britain. 

[Skinny Pete]

My standard response is if living under Sharia law is so great, fuck off to Saudia Arabia (or wherever)

[Ironside]

Look at the Scandinavian countries which are atheistic/secular. They have some of the lowest crime rates one the planet. Google is your friend.

Apart from the biggest Scandinavian country, Sweden. There's always an exception to the rule right? Except when the exception becomes the rule of course...

[Ironside]

40% of British Muslims want Sharia law imposed on Britain. 

Surely that's an argument in favour of deportation of the 40%?

[Flashheart]

Apart from the biggest Scandinavian country, Sweden. There's always an exception to the rule right? Except when the exception becomes the rule of course...

Agreed. Yet you have to take a closer look at their definition of crime.

[OrangeTransits]

Look at the Scandinavian countries which are atheistic/secular. They have some of the lowest crime rates one the planet. Google is your friend.

Sweden used to be like that and so did Denmark. Its too late for them. Let too many in and now there in trouble with soaring Rape incidents and crime in General.

[Flashheart]

Thwarted by the daily mail again. <- i didn't put the dm letters in caps on purpose. That'll learn them.

'night all