The refugee crisis.

[horlock07]

The manner in which the present crisis in Europe is bringing out the worst in all sides of the British public spectrum...

On one side we seem to have all manner of Britain's First rhetoric being rolled out..

On the other Facebook now seems to be full of people proposing to hire transit vans and drive stuff to Calais and other such tosh which is very obviously for our benefit to show how caring and liberal the writers are... (a particular highlight has been 'we have a house in Spain and I just cannot decide whether to open it up for refugees' - seriously!)

[Abrahammer]

I read somewhere about money being raised to create a banner in support of the refugees for our next home game.

Admirable sentitment but a bit pointless really

[Panda Paws]

The manner in which the present crisis in Europe is bringing out the worst in all sides of the British public spectrum...

On one side we seem to have all manner of Britain's First rhetoric being rolled out..

On the other Facebook now seems to be full of people proposing to hire transit vans and drive stuff to Calais and other such tosh which is very obviously for our benefit to show how caring and liberal the writers are... (a particular highlight has been 'we have a house in Spain and I just cannot decide whether to open it up for refugees' - seriously!)

Ah, the overt modern need to be seen doing something, rather than just do it. Not specific to any one cause unfortunately.

Want to donate or do a good thing? Go ahead, but don't tweet, facebook, instagram, snapchat or anything else about it you cockwomble!

[Red Frog]

I read somewhere about money being raised to create a banner in support of the refugees for our next home game.

Admirable sentitment but a bit pointless really

Why pointless? Celtic fans don't seem to think so.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/scottish/refugee-crisis-celtic-vow-to-donate-proceeds-from-charity-match-this-weekend-to-refugee-crisis-10485897.html

A lot of people seem to think that saying or doing anything in support of anything has become pointless. A submissive public is a politician's dream.

Edit: If Abrahammer meant that putting money into a banner rather than donating it to the crisis was pointless, then I understand.

[Abrahammer]

Edit: If Abrahammer meant that putting money into a banner rather than donating it to the crisis was pointless, then I understand.

Basically yes, on basis I think holding up a banner is quite frankly a massive waste of time.

The couple of hundred quid it would cost would be a lot more valuable should it be donated

[Reg Smeeton]

I read somewhere about money being raised to create a banner in support of the refugees for our next home game.

Admirable sentitment but a bit pointless really

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/sep/03/english-football-supporters-groups-refugees-welcome-banners

[jayohaitchenn]

Basically yes, on basis I think holding up a banner is quite frankly a massive waste of time.

The couple of hundred quid it would cost would be a lot more valuable should it be donated

What if the banner reaches a couple of thousand people who all donate a quid?

[suttonred]

The club are funding it and donating also. I had an email this morning but only skimmed it so far

[4D]

Buckets would be better

[Reg Smeeton]

What if the banner reaches a couple of thousand people who all donate a quid?

Isn't it saying that the individuals concerned are willing to open up their homes and take in a refugee?

[pauld]

What if the banner reaches a couple of thousand people who all donate a quid?

Or adds to a tide of public demonstrations of demands for action. Which actually given the scale and causes of the crisis is far more powerful than donations. Contrary to Abrahammer, I'd suggest that individual donations totalling a few hundred quid are far more pointless than pressure on the politicians who caused the crisis that the public don't share their "Ah, well fuck 'em" sentiments to seeing kids drowning on the shores of Europe. People across Europe frightening our rulers into taking at least some remedial action is in this case far more likely to save/help more people than a few quid in an Oxfam bucket. (Not saying people shouldn't donate, btw)

[4D]

How did the politicians cause the crisis?

[jayohaitchenn]

How did the politicians cause the crisis?

That is one of the stupidest things you've ever said. Well done.

[suttonred]

Isn't it saying that the individuals concerned are willing to open up their homes and take in a refugee?

I've been looking around to see if that's an option.  Cant find anything

[4D]

That is one of the stupidest things you've ever said. Well done.

As far as I am aware the mass migration of people is due to conflict etc, how are our politicians to blame? Aren't European countries taking in refugees?