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« on: Friday, September 4, 2015, 21:28:11 » |
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We are currently holidaying in Northern Europe and have taken sometime out to visit various historical military locations.
So far I have visited Arnhem and the "bridge" and today we visited Ypres, various cemeteries along the way and attended the last post in the evening at The Menin Gate. Whilst it makes me feel very humble/sad/grateful of the sacrifices made what took me aback was the shear scale of it all. We all know thanks to the poppies at the tower that something like 850,000+ lives were lost from Commonwealth but it is when you put that into some sort of context that it hits you.
I visited Tynecot Cemetery which has 12,000 graves and as you walk around the corner from the visitors centre you see a few graves, then with each passing step this number grows exponentially - until you see the full picture which was utterly, utterly shocking - and this is only 12k out of the 850k. Menin Gate has over 54,000 names on it, another 35,000 are at Tynecot.
I also saw the name of a possible relative who died fighting so will have to follow that up.
Anyone else been to any ?
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« Reply #1 on: Friday, September 4, 2015, 21:40:46 » |
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We are currently holidaying in Northern Europe and have taken sometime out to visit various historical military locations.
So far I have visited Arnhem and the "bridge" and today we visited Ypres, various cemeteries along the way and attended the last post in the evening at The Menin Gate. Whilst it makes me feel very humble/sad/grateful of the sacrifices made what took me aback was the shear scale of it all. We all know thanks to the poppies at the tower that something like 850,000+ lives were lost from Commonwealth but it is when you put that into some sort of context that it hits you.
I visited Tynecot Cemetery which has 12,000 graves and as you walk around the corner from the visitors centre you see a few graves, then with each passing step this number grows exponentially - until you see the full picture which was utterly, utterly shocking - and this is only 12k out of the 850k. Menin Gate has over 54,000 names on it, another 35,000 are at Tynecot.
I also saw the name of a possible relative who died fighting so will have to follow that up.
Anyone else been to any ?
Two years ago, the one down the road from Pegasus Bridge & also the Merville Battery which was the first objective taken before the troops landed on D Day. Very, very humbling.
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« Reply #2 on: Friday, September 4, 2015, 21:49:56 » |
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My time spent at Wipers visiting Tynecot etc. Will always stick with me. Deeply humbling.
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« Reply #3 on: Friday, September 4, 2015, 23:37:06 » |
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Been to the cemetery at the River Kwai, I'm not an emotional person, but that bought tear to my eye, It's also very well kept, constant tending.
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« Reply #4 on: Saturday, September 5, 2015, 06:32:41 » |
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Been to the cemetery at the River Kwai, I'm not an emotional person, but that bought tear to my eye, It's also very well kept, constant tending.
Went there last month. Agree it's very moving, and the museum over the road is excellent.
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« Reply #5 on: Saturday, September 5, 2015, 06:40:36 » |
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Many moons ago, when in Normandy we visited Bayeux, Cimetière américain de Normandie & La Cambe. Very nice to see such beautiful reminders of those who lost their lives, and very moving
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday, September 5, 2015, 07:18:32 » |
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My dad took us the Normandy beaches & cemeteries probably ten years ago. As a 14/15 year old, I can't say I really needed to see all six beaches and four cemeteries, not much of a fun holiday, but the one that sticks out was the American landing point Omaha. It's just a sheer 50ft cliff, the fact that they ended up landing so many people there is terrifying.
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday, September 5, 2015, 08:25:36 » |
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Last year we went to Northern france and took in Bayeux. We went to the war cemetary there. Massive and a lot of local names and regiments. Really choked me up. The following day on our drive back we took a trip off the motorway for a change and ended up going through the Somme. Quite striking to see how far the western front progressed month by month.
I didnt realise I was going to be quite as emotional as I was. Im glad we didnt do the beaches as well. Maybe another year!
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« Reply #8 on: Saturday, September 5, 2015, 11:01:49 » |
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We are currently holidaying in Northern Europe and have taken sometime out to visit various historical military locations.
So far I have visited Arnhem and the "bridge" and today we visited Ypres, various cemeteries along the way and attended the last post in the evening at The Menin Gate. Whilst it makes me feel very humble/sad/grateful of the sacrifices made what took me aback was the shear scale of it all. We all know thanks to the poppies at the tower that something like 850,000+ lives were lost from Commonwealth but it is when you put that into some sort of context that it hits you.
I visited Tynecot Cemetery which has 12,000 graves and as you walk around the corner from the visitors centre you see a few graves, then with each passing step this number grows exponentially - until you see the full picture which was utterly, utterly shocking - and this is only 12k out of the 850k. Menin Gate has over 54,000 names on it, another 35,000 are at Tynecot.
I also saw the name of a possible relative who died fighting so will have to follow that up.
Anyone else been to any ?
Can't wait to see your holiday snaps This kind of trip has never interested me. In fact I find it very creepy that anyone would want to go on such a trip. Big business though.
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« Reply #9 on: Saturday, September 5, 2015, 11:04:07 » |
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Last year we went to Northern france and took in Bayeux. We went to the war cemetary there. Massive and a lot of local names and regiments. Really choked me up. The following day on our drive back we took a trip off the motorway for a change and ended up going thOrough the Somme. Quite striking to see how far the western front progressed month by month.
I didnt realise I was going to be quite as emotional as I was. Im glad we didnt do the beaches as well. Maybe another year!
Did you do the tapestry? If not it is amazing. Also not to far away Mont St. michel
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« Reply #10 on: Saturday, September 5, 2015, 11:07:49 » |
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Did the tapestry. To be honest, not really for me and ruined by an American talking shite too loudly. I prefer to talk shite in a whisper.
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« Reply #11 on: Saturday, September 5, 2015, 11:12:13 » |
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Did the tapestry. To be honest, not really for me and ruined by an American talking shite too loudly. I prefer to talk shite in a whisper.
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« Reply #12 on: Saturday, September 5, 2015, 16:02:03 » |
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Try the national memorial arberetum, it says it all with quiet dignity, it's not all military with the other services represented ambulance police and fire all represented.
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« Reply #13 on: Saturday, September 5, 2015, 16:13:48 » |
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Did you do the tapestry? If not it is amazing. Also not to far away Mont St. michel
The tapestry is a truly wonderful thing.....OK it's Norman propaganda, but thhat shouldn't cloud one's judgement.
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« Reply #14 on: Saturday, September 5, 2015, 17:33:22 » |
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Interestingly, some say it's embroidery rather than a tapestry
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