Let's Get Political!

[4D]

Which parts of the Tory manifesto, which I assume you read when making your choice on policy rather than leader, convinced you to vote for them?

You're assuming I voted. According to Horlock there wasn't much to read. Why did labour lose so many votes in their traditional heartlands? Perhaps that's more down to Labour not getting it right?

[RobertT]

Labour are a mess of a party - which they will always be because they pander to Ideology and not Electioneering.  Blair showed them the way - he may have been contemptible to many of the party aficionado's , but he got them in and carried actual policy changes.  In modern parlance, they can't break past their Base, and rather than piss them off a little to gain the middle, they've entrenched in trying to solidify them.

[pauld]

You're assuming I voted. According to Horlock there wasn't much to read. Why did labour lose so many votes in their traditional heartlands? Perhaps that's more down to Labour not getting it right?

Labour were a fucking shambles. But you said it was the easiest choice in years, not just based on the leaders. So I assumed that you must have carefully weighed up both sets of policies in coming to that conclusion.

[4D]

I've never been one to stick to a party blindly, like some. I like different policies from different parties. Voting choices for me usually come down to weighing up things I'm happier with. I know I'll more than likely end up disappointed afterwards though Labour annoyed me over Brexit, and their leader at the time. Sometimes the decision is made easier for you.

[Valid Pint]

Labour were a fucking shambles. But you said it was the easiest choice in years, not just based on the leaders. So I assumed that you must have carefully weighed up both sets of policies in coming to that conclusion.

There were only 2 parties standing?
What would the result have been if the Brexit Party had stood in the seats it pulled of because of its non-partizan, best for the country policy?

[pauld]

I've never been one to stick to a party blindly, like some. I like different policies from different parties. Voting choices for me usually come down to weighing up things I'm happier with. I know I'll more than likely end up disappointed afterwards though Labour annoyed me over Brexit, and their leader at the time. Sometimes the decision is made easier for you.

Fair enough. Tbh, although I largely agree that people shd on the basis of policy not personalities at the last election it would have been quite reasonable to have just gone "I'm not voting for that dickhead, he'll be a disaster". Problem is that applies whichever way you voted

[Berniman]

2019 was basically a Brexit vote, nothing else - didn't matter who was running and what there other manifesto policies were..

[horlock07]

Blair showed them the way - he may have been contemptible to many of the party aficionado's , but he got them in and carried actual policy changes. 

Talking of Blair, I noticed it reported the other day that more NHS and Care workers have now been killed by Covid-19 than UK military personnel in Iraq.

[michael]

I see Starmer has written to Johnson post PMQ's asking him to clarify one of the whoppers he told.

Crikey, easy mistake, you can’t expect the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom to know stuff that happened when he was on holiday!!

Nor when he was off sick, or if it happened at a weekend, or after 1655 on a week day...

[Valid Pint]

It must be difficult with a new born & a hugely responsible job. Let's hope the work / life balance is maintained.

[Batch]

^^^^^ if he can't manage it, he can step aside

[Quagmire]

He wouldn’t last ten minutes under Di Canio.

[BambooToTheFuture]

He wouldn’t last ten minutes under Di Canio.

This is fucking gold. Bang on the money too. Cracking post Quaggy!

[mystical_goat]

I see Starmer has written to Johnson post PMQ's asking him to clarify one of the whoppers he told.

Just caught up on the Johnson/Starmer part of PMQs and found the letter, good stuff:

[pauld]

He wouldn’t last ten minutes under Di Canio.

Think Di Canio would find much he admired in Johnson. That's not a compliment to either of them.