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« Reply #8865 on: Saturday, December 14, 2019, 10:57:19 »

Have you actually watched the video?

Yes, I have. More than once. I literally gave a link to it.

She clearly states it's about people with learning disabilites...

Yes. Yes she did. She did say that. That she said it is the entire bleedin' problem.

Do you really think that what she said is OK?
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« Reply #8866 on: Saturday, December 14, 2019, 10:59:01 »

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« Reply #8867 on: Saturday, December 14, 2019, 11:00:33 »

Another one said that people that need food banks should be more careful with their money, and that they should consider getting a payday loan if they are struggling.

I don't know if he was voted in. But he was tory.

Again not quoting the full story...

From the mirror

"He told voters: "When they go down to the food bank, what they struggle with is maybe being able to manage their budget...

"A thing that can help them is how we can offer them some advice and support.

"When people are really, really down, and when people haven't got the money, one of the things they can look to do is to get a payday loan or something like that.

"If I'm in Parliament, as a private member's bill, if I ever get the opportunity, one of the things I'd like to do is to try and stop payday loan advertising because that just makes the whole problem worse.

"What we need to do is to be able to support these people and helping them understand budgets and money is a really useful thing and it's something we can bring into schools as well."

So while he does say that and I disagree with that 100%, he then goes on to say he will try to reduce advertising of payday loans (which is good) and help support/teach people about budgetting, which again is a positive.
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« Reply #8868 on: Saturday, December 14, 2019, 11:00:35 »



Stealing that.

Too many people on my timeline are blocking each other over it.
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« Reply #8869 on: Saturday, December 14, 2019, 11:02:36 »



So while he does say that and I disagree with that 100%, he then goes on to say he will try to reduce advertising of payday loans (which is good) and help support/teach people about budgetting, which again is a positive.

Do you honestly not see the problem?
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« Reply #8870 on: Saturday, December 14, 2019, 11:02:41 »

Yes, I have. More than once. I literally gave a link to it.

Yes. Yes she did. She did say that. That she said it is the entire bleedin' problem.

Do you really think that what she said is OK?

Did you read what I posted on the previous reply?
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« Reply #8871 on: Saturday, December 14, 2019, 11:04:03 »

Did you read what I posted on the previous reply?

Yes.

Yes I did.

Do you honestly not see the problem?
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« Reply #8872 on: Saturday, December 14, 2019, 11:05:13 »

Do you honestly not see the problem?

About help supporting people with budgetting/planning and understanding money? Don't get me wrong, it won't solve all the problems, as the whole UC system isn't right.  But again, if you read what I said it was a positive? not that it solved the whole issue.
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« Reply #8873 on: Saturday, December 14, 2019, 11:05:57 »

Yes.

Yes I did.

Do you honestly not see the problem?

I'm assuming you are on a wind up, thanks for playing
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« Reply #8874 on: Saturday, December 14, 2019, 11:06:35 »

So that's a no. You don't see the problem.

I have nothing more to say to you.

Fucking poor people. If only they would stop being poor.
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« Reply #8875 on: Saturday, December 14, 2019, 11:11:07 »

So that's a no. You don't see the problem.

I have nothing more to say to you.

Fucking poor people. If only they would stop being poor.

I'm not sure I ever said that the whole quotes were good, I was trying to bring a bit of balance and quote the whole article or video...

You have again proven my point that you bring your own views to a discussion without looking at the whole picture.
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« Reply #8876 on: Saturday, December 14, 2019, 11:13:21 »

Heavens to Betsy!

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Tory Britain.
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« Reply #8877 on: Saturday, December 14, 2019, 11:16:58 »

Heavens to Betsy!

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Tory Britain.

Thanks for the well reasoned discussion, it's been a pleasure.
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« Reply #8878 on: Saturday, December 14, 2019, 11:27:31 »

Heavens to Betsy!

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Tory Britain.

It's always worth remembering that the anti Tory vote was higher than the pro Tory vote.... meaning that in a given football ground, pub etc you're still more likely to find people for whom Johnson and his cabal of right wing loons are anathema. 

OK FPTP gives the power to govern, and now we'll rapidly get to see if unicorns exist or not.
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« Reply #8879 on: Saturday, December 14, 2019, 11:38:45 »

OK.

I'll make a bit more of an effort.

How are people supposed to budget with money that they don't have?

What if their income does not meet their expenses?
What if they are already limiting their expenditure to the point where they are paying as little as they possibly can to survive, but they still don't have enough.

What are those people supposed to do?
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