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« Reply #5895 on: Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 17:59:08 »

The Beeb are rather faced that 69% of panellists on UKExit-themed editions of Question Time have identified themselves as wishing the UK to stay in the EU.

Not very representative. The response was that panellists are not chosen using mathematics alone!
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« Reply #5896 on: Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 18:07:12 »

The Beeb are rather faced that 69% of panellists on UKExit-themed editions of Question Time have identified themselves as wishing the UK to stay in the EU.

Not very representative. The response was that panellists are not chosen using mathematics alone!
The beeb stand to lose millions of eu funding if we leave. only selfish greed on their part.
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« Reply #5897 on: Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 19:39:16 »

The Beeb are rather faced that 69% of panellists on UKExit-themed editions of Question Time have identified themselves as wishing the UK to stay in the EU.

Not very representative. The response was that panellists are not chosen using mathematics alone!

I don't see what the problem would be with that?  The vote was probably along similar lines among the % of the population you would likely find "decision maker" type roles in the economy and Politics, so that is fair.  Also, the point of the programme is to press those people on their thought process, is it not?  So it serves well - provided the questions being asked are representative of "the people".
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« Reply #5898 on: Thursday, April 18, 2019, 08:46:03 »

The Beeb are rather faced that 69% of panellists on UKExit-themed editions of Question Time have identified themselves as wishing the UK to stay in the EU.

Not very representative. The response was that panellists are not chosen using mathematics alone!

I assume you are setting aside the disparity between pro EU MEP's appearing (none) and anti-EU MEP's (loads of times although that includes Farage's monthly slot!)

In addition these  anguished cries of conspiracy are rather offset by the BBC suppressing stories about nefarious activities by the leave campaign though....

In case you missed it....

Robbie Gibb was head of BBC Westminster & is currently head of communication in No10. This is how Aaron Banks talked about him after the BBC killed the report into Leave.EU wrongdoing: "Robbie is being quite helpful and says he’s trying to hose it down.”

See https://www.channel4.com/news/revealed-brexit-group-covered-up-its-targeting-of-right-wing-extremists
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« Reply #5899 on: Thursday, April 18, 2019, 08:48:30 »

The beeb stand to lose millions of eu funding if we leave. only selfish greed on their part.

I think they will manage if they lose the 7% of funding, which actually doesn't go to the BBC but to an independent charity the BBC runs for international matters https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36149789

Perhaps they could go into selling tin foil, with the conspiracy theories engulfing this thread I am sure hat production demands could meet the shortfall.
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« Reply #5900 on: Thursday, April 18, 2019, 09:05:17 »

Better get used to that backstop folks..... https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1118545688999100417
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« Reply #5901 on: Thursday, April 18, 2019, 09:35:51 »

Better get used to that backstop folks..... https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1118545688999100417

Incredible.  It's almost as if all the rhetoric about 'taking back control' was completely undeliverable.
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« Reply #5902 on: Thursday, April 18, 2019, 10:27:26 »

Better get used to that backstop folks..... https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1118545688999100417

At least a decade, when ran through the standard Govetnment project deviation, means at least 2 decades and twice the cost.
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« Reply #5903 on: Thursday, April 18, 2019, 10:43:35 »

I know we don't believe polls any more but fuck me if the Torys aren't toast for the forseeable.

https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1118643463380185088
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« Reply #5904 on: Thursday, April 18, 2019, 11:31:23 »

I know we don't believe polls any more but fuck me if the Torys aren't toast for the forseeable.

https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1118643463380185088

Looking less clear cut here, lets b honest in the present climate no one has a clue....

https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1118836554330460160
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« Reply #5905 on: Thursday, April 18, 2019, 17:15:33 »

Not as clear cut but what both your link and Jayo's show, quite clearly, is that the "Right" are splitting in opinion/their vote. One of the things any right leaning party prides itself on is so called "togetherness". As comments in those threads say; it's quite unheard of.

The change in politics is coming and what it may look like, who knows?
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« Reply #5906 on: Thursday, April 18, 2019, 18:38:46 »

Yougov seem to be producing a high number of outliers recently, not convinced of their methodology at all. Survation are far more reliable imo
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« Reply #5907 on: Thursday, April 18, 2019, 19:36:17 »

Yougov have been shite for a while.  Some times as much as 6pc from the average position but they seem to be taken more seriously than the others.  Knock out the outliers either way and you get something that might resemble the truth.
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« Reply #5908 on: Friday, April 19, 2019, 01:26:29 »

The pollsters release different polls in public to the more detailed efforts they get from paid investors. It's why a lot of the disaster capitilist brexit group shorted the pound a few days before the referendum.
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« Reply #5909 on: Friday, April 19, 2019, 06:32:05 »

I don't see what the problem would be with that?  The vote was probably along similar lines among the % of the population you would likely find "decision maker" type roles in the economy and Politics, so that is fair.  Also, the point of the programme is to press those people on their thought process, is it not?  So it serves well - provided the questions being asked are representative of "the people".

So some votes should be worth more than others?!

What value should be given to the opinion of economic migrants to the United States of America? $$$$$$$$
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