Let's Get Political!

[Reg Smeeton]

 A lengthy extension of Art 50, means we have to take part in the Euro elections, we could sort of save some money, and use it as a third referendum.  It's proportional rep, so candidates could stand for no deal, Canada ++, managed no deal, Norway, leave but customs union, remain. The negotiated settlement should then take on board the outcome of the PR vote.

[BambooToTheFuture]

I think Ardiles mentioned something about our status as a legitimate nation/country/kingdom. While I'm sure it was rather tongue in cheek, after reading a delightfully curious book, 'An Atlas of Countries That Don't Exist'; the suggestion is seemingly much closer (politically) every day.

PS: For those that enjoy cartography, political geography et al. It is an interesting read.

[Combe Up]

A lengthy extension of Art 50, means we have to take part in the Euro elections, we could sort of save some money, and use it as a third referendum.  It's proportional rep, so candidates could stand for no deal, Canada ++, managed no deal, Norway, leave but customs union, remain. The negotiated settlement should then take on board the outcome of the PR vote.

This is the best idea so far! As long as there is a "leave with no strings" option or "NOTA" i.e. none of the above.

If only the AV referendum had gone the other way. Is it too late to rerun that one too?

[Bathtime]

I work for an Italian printing company and we produce the books in Italy and transport them back to the UK - recently we have been asking our UK customers to supply us with an EORI number to help with the customs - in the event of a No Deal we will need a TSP number and that folks is it....if books have a tariff to be added ( which they don`t ) the customer would receive an invoice from the tax office 4 days after delivery into UK - this is triggered by the TSP - is this the catastrophic cliff edge we are all concerned about...I realize this is only books but...I do wonder who is telling leading us here...??

[Reg Smeeton]

I work for an Italian printing company and we produce the books in Italy and transport them back to the UK - recently we have been asking our UK customers to supply us with an EORI number to help with the customs - in the event of a No Deal we will need a TSP number and that folks is it....if books have a tariff to be added ( which they don`t ) the customer would receive an invoice from the tax office 4 days after delivery into UK - this is triggered by the TSP - is this the catastrophic cliff edge we are all concerned about...I realize this is only books but...I do wonder who is telling leading us here...??

The whole Brexiteer argument, is that it will make everything better for you, not that it will only perhaps make things slightly worse.... if that was the case why bother?

Clearly your job for a European company wasn't being hindered by being in the EU as Brexiteers would argue.

[Bathtime]

The whole Brexiteer argument, is that it will make everything better for you, not that it will only perhaps make things slightly worse.... if that was the case why bother?

Clearly your job for a European company wasn't being hindered by being in the EU as Brexiteers would argue.

Are the Brexiteers saying that...? I am not sure they are - as this is a trading position this isn`t something that is being argued / discussed - this is more of an illustration that the worrying cliff edge of not being able to receive essential items due to a No deal might be slightly over stressed...?

[Reg Smeeton]

Are the Brexiteers saying that...? I am not sure they are - as this is a trading position this isn`t something that is being argued / discussed - this is more of an illustration that the worrying cliff edge of not being able to receive essential items due to a No deal might be slightly over stressed...?

Well books probably aren't items that are time essential, I'm sure people can wait a day or 2 longer.... the government has plans in place for more critical items like medecines and isotopes  .... Grayling spent mills on a shipping company with no boats, no harbour and then had to compensate Eurostar, for not considering them for the contract

[Ardiles]

This is gold!  From the Guardian:

And earlier the French government spokesman, Benjamin Griveaux, said:
 
France’s position is simple: the British prime minister must explain to us for how long and what for, and offer us guarantees.  A delay is therefore not automatic nor certain.

If anyone was in any doubt what 'taking back control' really looks like, we are now France's bitch, and will do as the rest of Europe tells us to.

That's the reality of Brexit.  How far we've fallen.

[jayohaitchenn]

Left image: Jan 2017, right image: today

[The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey]

Got to say, I was more drawn to the story of Putin’s prostitutes.

[Ardiles]

I couldn't get past Treez's pyjamas.  They're awful.

[Bathtime]

This is gold!  From the Guardian:

And earlier the French government spokesman, Benjamin Griveaux, said:
 
France’s position is simple: the British prime minister must explain to us for how long and what for, and offer us guarantees.  A delay is therefore not automatic nor certain.

If anyone was in any doubt what 'taking back control' really looks like, we are now France's bitch, and will do as the rest of Europe tells us to.

That's the reality of Brexit.  How far we've fallen.

Spot on - sooner we get over that cliff edge the better.....not going to be allowed to happen though - no one gets to leave the Union nobody

[Ardiles]

This is the future, I'm afraid.  Even after we go over the cliff edge (in or out), we are going to be dictated to by our near neighbours.  Jayo's pic above sums it up succinctly.  Brexit = giving up control, and handing it to others.

[Reg Smeeton]

Got to say, I was more drawn to the story of Putin’s prostitutes.

I'm with you on that... in the words of the Fab Four...

Well the Ukraine girls really knock me out
They leave the west behind
And Moscow girls make me sing and shout
That Georgia's always on my my my my my my my my my mind
Oh, come on
Hu hey hu, hey, ah, yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah
I'm back in the USSR
You don't know how lucky you are, boys
Back in the USSR

[Bob's Orange]

So looking at what Mr Tusk has said it looks like these are the options.

1. Vote for May's deal (and get a short extension to the March 30th leave date)
2. Vote for no deal Brexit

Is it still possible to repeal article 50 or has that ship sailed?