Let's Get Political!

[herthab]

they can keep delaying it tho, word tonight is a delay for 12 months

Yay! Another year of people with little, to no, understanding of the complexities involved commenting as if they're fucking experts..

[Batch]

For a simpleton, what does this all mean?

simpleton or rocket scientist, nobody really knows

[Legends-Lounge]

simpleton or rocket scientist, nobody really knows

In simple terms. It is a game of chess. May (GB) v EU. She doesn’t want them to lose and she doesn’t want us to win. They want to win at all costs. Every time she makes a move they say check. So she keeps on until they say check mate. During the game she needs to have a piss, when she goes out the room they move the pieces and she pretends not to notice. When they go for a piss they leave 26 in the room to make sure she does not do what they do when she does! Simples.

[RobertT]

We can still withdraw the notice to quite as well, wouldn't that be fun to watch.

[Batch]

it would, but won't happen without referendum 2.

[woolster]

In simple terms. It is a game of chess. May (GB) v EU. She doesn’t want them to lose and she doesn’t want us to win. They want to win at all costs. Every time she makes a move they say check. So she keeps on until they say check mate. During the game she needs to have a piss, when she goes out the room they move the pieces and she pretends not to notice. When they go for a piss they leave 26 in the room to make sure she does not do what they do when she does! Simples.

[RobertT]

The biggest issue I see is the previous GE.  Parties should have made it clear what their strategy was, and people who didn't agree with the Brexit approach should have stood for other parties.  To be fair to May she seems to be doing what they had in their manifesto?

If the electorate then gave a majority to a Hard Brexit group, we'd know what was happening.  As it is the Tories who want that shouldn't be under that banner right now, if this is so fundamental, which it is.  Quite what Labour are playing at, I have no idea.

[pauld]

The biggest issue I see is the previous GE.  Parties should have made it clear what their strategy was

But then they'd have had to have had an idea what it was themselves instead of just making it up as they go along

Quite what Labour are playing at, I have no idea.

That's OK, neither have they

[The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey]

Mr Simplistic here.

Why cant we just stay in the EU exactly as we are now until any future trade deal between the UK and the EU has been negotiated and agreed and then leave?

[Ardiles]

I think that you've just described the Transition Period.  But the Transition Period is only offered by the EU if we first agree the terms of a Withdrawal Agreement...which we haven't.

[jayohaitchenn]

Mr Simplistic here.

Why cant we just stay in the EU exactly as we are now until any future trade deal between the UK and the EU has been negotiated and agreed and then leave?

EU won't start trade negotiations until we've left, it's written into article 50.

[horlock07]

Mr Simplistic here.

Why cant we just stay in the EU exactly as we are now until any future trade deal between the UK and the EU has been negotiated and agreed and then leave?

Because that would make us have to implement the tax evasion legislation being enacted on 1st April, which makes the headless rush with a semblance of a plan to activate A50 and set a leave date of 29th March even smellier.

[Batch]

She's going to keep going and going on the same, isn't she.

[pauld]

You are of course forgetting that we are leaving on 29th March under article 50 which has been voted on and passed by parliament. This is now a binding legal act. Tomorrow’s vote cannot supercede that. I could be wrong but that is my understanding.

No you're correct. Without a delay, we are leaving on March 29th. Parliament can vote against no deal, but if they don't vote for the only deal that is on the table, then we will leave without a deal unless we manage to get a delay. But that's far from a given and not in our gift. This is the stupidity of all these MPs waffling about CM2.0 and Malthouse Compromise and Canada 1.27 etc etc - they may or may not be better than the deal that has been negotiated but they are not the deal that has been negotiated, so they aren't on the table. MPs may as well vote for giraffes that shit skittles

[horlock07]

No you're correct. Without a delay, we are leaving on March 29th. Parliament can vote against no deal, but if they don't vote for the only deal that is on the table, then we will leave without a deal unless we manage to get a delay. But that's far from a given and not in our gift. This is the stupidity of all these MPs waffling about CM2.0 and Malthouse Compromise and Canada 1.27 etc etc - they may or may not be better than the deal that has been negotiated but they are not the deal that has been negotiated, so they aren't on the table. MPs may as well vote for giraffes that shit skittles

Rather summed up here.....

https://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2019/03/13/national-breakdown-a-glimpse-of-the-vicious-chaos-of-no-deal