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« Reply #3480 on: Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 09:42:56 »

But is that not just perpetuating the myth that what the architects of the EU and the incumbent technocrats aspire to can be achieved without the need to go through the EU democratic processes which are actually made up of either MEP's elected by the EU electorate, of the heads of state who are equally elected by the electorate of their home states. On that basis there are a number of countries, including the EU until next March at least, that elected members in either group would never pass any such legislation and thus by extension whatever the aspirations of the federalists it ain't going to happen.


and yet here we are today - a once trading block.
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« Reply #3482 on: Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 10:31:00 »

The problem, for me, is that the EU will eventually go tits up anyway. The PIGS countries are not going to stand by and do nothing for ever - well, Ireland might.

May be best to get ahead of the game now, sort out some trade agreements elsewhere and watch from the sidelines as the whole shebang implode.

Millions of young people in Southern Europe have been sacrificed to EU austerity measures. Sooner or later they will fight back.
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« Reply #3483 on: Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 10:54:22 »

I think a bigger risk for the EU will be the V4. When they are forced to take in immigrants it will be fun. They have already said no but the EU can enforce it. If they do, good luck If they don't then its not fair on other countries. I would not want to be one of those immigrants unless I was a good old Christian or white.
Germany would be the obvious solution as they took in over 1m immigrants who have the rights to now move anywhere in the EU - without consulting the other EU countries. That appears to have caused some ructions on Germany and Merkel is no longer as popular as was with Macron trying to take up the EU leader role.
There's definitely an increasing momentum by the peasants to revolt at the EU. It hasn't gathered enough pace yet but it may well do.
Don't forget there isn't a problem with the EU that can't be solved by more EU in the minds of our good mate Junker etc. It certainly is not an institution that appears to practice pragmatism.
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« Reply #3484 on: Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 13:18:22 »

And our own Justin "Wonga" Tomlinson has been appointed a jr minister in the DWP in the reshuffle.
But a backbencher has been promoted to Attorney General, bypassing our other MP, Robert Buckland, who is the current Solicitor General. I'm assuming that's a bit of a snub for Bobby B, but tbh I don't know a whole lot about the AG promotion ladder (although AG is a bigger job than SG isn't it?)
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« Reply #3485 on: Tuesday, July 10, 2018, 17:13:23 »

Indeed...the SG is the AG's deputy.
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« Reply #3486 on: Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 12:02:56 »

So this Project Fear stuff....

In 2016 the government tell us: "No deal is better than a bad deal"

In 2018 the government, by their actions, tell us: "Stock up on tinned goods like you're prepping for the apocalypse"
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« Reply #3487 on: Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 12:42:44 »


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As far as I am concerned the EU is a protectionist anti free trade organisation run by the Germans for the Germans

So LL, Trump is now saying that the Germans are a captive of Russia.... so does that mean Putin runs the EU? 
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« Reply #3488 on: Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 13:10:14 »

So LL, Trump is now saying that the Germans are a captive of Russia.... so does that mean Putin runs the EU? 

I think you will find its the UK actually....

BTW on that matter.... https://twitter.com/tompeck/status/1016631522080718848
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« Reply #3489 on: Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 13:49:11 »

So LL, Trump is now saying that the Germans are a captive of Russia
Quite jaw-dropping hypocrisy, even for him. Pots and kettles and all that
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« Reply #3490 on: Wednesday, July 11, 2018, 13:54:21 »

He is almost like a parody of himself at times.
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« Reply #3491 on: Friday, July 13, 2018, 14:12:01 »

He is almost like a parody of himself at times.
And again today, backtracking on his Sun interview by describing it as "fake news" - they've released the audio recording of exactly what you said, you massive lying cockwomble.
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« Reply #3492 on: Friday, July 13, 2018, 14:22:39 »

The Chequers press conference (on now) is full of jaw-dropping moments.
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« Reply #3493 on: Friday, July 13, 2018, 14:41:22 »

It's a shame more people don't turn up to protest against our own shit show government instead of worrying more about Trump
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« Reply #3494 on: Friday, July 13, 2018, 14:44:34 »

protests aren't mutually exclusive
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