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« Reply #2325 on: Tuesday, January 24, 2017, 18:17:40 »

Regardless of how you voted, what a complete cock-up this whole endeavour has been so far.
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« Reply #2326 on: Tuesday, January 24, 2017, 18:17:53 »

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Only about 70% of the electorate voted, its not a majority of the people at all is it.

Don't go down that path!

Our whole system is flawed if you look into it ref numbers.

You cannot NOT vote and then complain that the Tories got in.
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« Reply #2327 on: Tuesday, January 24, 2017, 18:40:43 »

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Only about 70% of the electorate voted, its not a majority of the people at all is it.

Nor was the 1975 referendum, even worse Heath had absolutely no mandate to take us in given that the electorate, by 3-1, opposed entry into the then EEC after 1970 election - especially so when MPs were physically assaulted in order to force them through the "right" lobby against the public wishes.
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« Reply #2328 on: Tuesday, January 24, 2017, 21:27:49 »

Don't go down that path!

Our whole system is flawed if you look into it ref numbers.

You cannot NOT vote and then complain that the Tories got in.
I wasn't able to vote in 2015, can I still complain?
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« Reply #2329 on: Thursday, February 2, 2017, 18:50:22 »

Good to see Mrs May using Hillsborough to dishonestly gain political capital in PMQ's yesterday whilst that nice Mr Davies is at it again...
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/feb/02/is-philip-davies-fit-to-be-an-mp?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

At some point will they realise that being labelled the nasty party is not meant as a challenge!
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« Reply #2330 on: Tuesday, February 14, 2017, 15:56:05 »

What a scumbag:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/feb/14/ukip-leader-admits-claim-that-he-lost-close-friends-at-hillsborough-was-false


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« Reply #2331 on: Tuesday, February 14, 2017, 16:17:12 »

Oh dear.  Another politician who 'mis-spoke'.
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« Reply #2332 on: Thursday, February 16, 2017, 21:47:12 »

Trump's marathon press conference today.  Hilarious, mindboggling and scary all rolled into one.
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« Reply #2333 on: Friday, February 24, 2017, 15:50:00 »

whilst that nice Mr Davies is at it again...
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/feb/02/is-philip-davies-fit-to-be-an-mp?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

At some point will they realise that being labelled the nasty party is not meant as a challenge!
And again:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/domestic-violence-istanbul-convention-bill-philip-davies-filibuster-parliament-snp-a7597686.html

The Tories' premier pro-domestic violence spokesman. What a shitbag.
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« Reply #2334 on: Friday, February 24, 2017, 16:19:09 »

 Interesting byelection results yesterday..... mixed bag for Labour, saw off UKIP in Stoke, but lost Copeland.  As Farron stated UKIP have no further point as the Tory right wing  Brexit coup, has seized their ground. The general question now seems to be how much further to the right can the Tories shift? 
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« Reply #2335 on: Friday, February 24, 2017, 16:21:22 »


He does appear to have a rather large problem with women....
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« Reply #2336 on: Friday, February 24, 2017, 16:23:48 »

Interesting byelection results yesterday..... mixed bag for Labour, saw off UKIP in Stoke, but lost Copeland.
Wouldn't characterise the piss-poor Labour vote in Stoke (7,500 votes in a solid seat shows a massive turn-off against Labour in one of their solid seats) as any kind of victory - UKIP just failed more badly than Labour did.
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« Reply #2337 on: Friday, February 24, 2017, 16:29:03 »

Wouldn't characterise the piss-poor Labour vote in Stoke (7,500 votes in a solid seat shows a massive turn-off against Labour in one of their solid seats) as any kind of victory - UKIP just failed more badly than Labour did.

A win is a win.....just like I'll take a 1-0 at Cov after a terrible display, with a 95th minute winner going off the referees arse.
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« Reply #2338 on: Friday, February 24, 2017, 16:31:16 »

A win is a win.....just like I'll take a 1-0 at Cov after a terrible display, with a 95th minute winner going off the referees arse.
Neither of which results would mask the obvious long-term decline of the subjects in question. Very pleased that UKIP seem to be properly disappearing up their own jacksies, mind. Anyone want to buy a barely lived in mid-terrace house in Stoke? One careful owner, fond of tweed and not reading the mis-truths on his own website.
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« Reply #2339 on: Friday, February 24, 2017, 16:32:12 »

Interesting byelection results yesterday..... mixed bag for Labour, saw off UKIP in Stoke, but lost Copeland.  As Farron stated UKIP have no further point as the Tory right wing  Brexit coup, has seized their ground. The general question now seems to be how much further to the right can the Tories shift?  

Copeland is not really, as the media have liked to portray, strong Labour territory. Having lived up that way for a few years whilst there are traditional Labour areas on the coast (Whitehaven etc) the vast majority of the constituency is rural farming land and thus traditional Tory territory.

Despite it being a Labour seat for years, in the 80's and early 90's the MP (one of the Cunninghams who seemed to monopolize West Cumbrian politics) only tended to have a c.2k majority over the Tory candidate. Add to that the influx of wealth from Sellafield, the incoming workforce with no traditional links and Corbyns problems with the Nuclear industry and its not really a shock.

Although the kicker for Corbyn was that Theresa May rolled up in the constituency, basically confirmed they are planned to shut a lot of the hospital and shunt services 40+ miles away to Carlisle (where access is crap) and people still voted Tory!

In terms of Stoke the more eye catching thing was despite being shown to have lied (rather unpleasantly in many cases) every time he opened his mouth Nuttall managed to get 24% of the vote, I know many of those who support UKIP, but won't admit why, are trying to spin it as a protest vote but there were plenty of Independents standing?
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