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« Reply #2085 on: Wednesday, October 12, 2016, 10:25:10 »

I am rapidly beginning to reach the conclusion that I just don't understand modern new politics where principles seem to have bee entirely replaced with keeping ones power at all costs.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/snoopers-charter-investigatory-powers-bill-labour-abstain-shami-chakrabarti-jeremy-corbyn-diane-a7355301.html

Chakrabarti is delivering a beautiful case study in how to build a fine and principled reputation over many years and then proceed to destroy it once ones nose is in the trough in about 3 weeks, would love to be a fly on the wall next time she joins her former colleagues at Liberty for after work drinks....

Politics has always been about power, never principles. Thus the dividing line is not vertical between political parties but horizontal between us and them.
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« Reply #2086 on: Friday, October 21, 2016, 06:42:56 »

Interestingly the Tory vote was down 15% in Witney?
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« Reply #2087 on: Friday, October 21, 2016, 06:52:04 »

New candidate always loses votes when a popular local MP retires, especially at a by election. Lib Dems managed to lose 26% in Bath at the last election. I wouldn't read too much into it.

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« Reply #2088 on: Friday, October 21, 2016, 07:03:14 »

Interestingly the Tory vote was down 15% in Witney?

Lib Dems gained a fair bit.

I was one of the 59 who voted for Lord Toby Jug.
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« Reply #2089 on: Friday, October 21, 2016, 08:29:14 »

Lib Dems gained a fair bit.

I was one of the 59 who voted for Lord Toby Jug.
Didn't he split the Looney Vote? Why him and not the originals?
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« Reply #2090 on: Friday, October 21, 2016, 09:10:56 »

Didn't he split the Looney Vote? Why him and not the originals?

Preferred his name compared to the other candidates name Cheesy
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« Reply #2091 on: Friday, October 21, 2016, 09:53:45 »

New candidate always loses votes when a popular local MP retires, especially at a by election. Lib Dems managed to lose 26% in Bath at the last election. I wouldn't read too much into it.



I suspect that the crash in the Lib Dem vote had little to do with the retirement of popular candidates?

The fact that both May and Cameron had been canvassing for the new guy in Witney (and the fact it is deepest Toryville) and it still dropped as much as it did hopefully means that voters have been a little spooked by the rhetoric being spouted to keep the hard right on side?
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« Reply #2092 on: Friday, October 21, 2016, 09:54:23 »

Preferred his name compared to the other candidates name Cheesy

And this is what is wrong with modern politics  Wink
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« Reply #2093 on: Friday, October 21, 2016, 09:59:43 »

Tory safe seat, with a big majority. Might as well vote for a laugh
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« Reply #2094 on: Friday, October 21, 2016, 10:19:30 »

Tory safe seat, with a big majority. Might as well vote for a laugh

I know, Woodward defected to Labour around about the time I moved away from Witney (ish) and up north, but I have to admit the fact that Witney had a Labour MP for a while tickled me somewhat!
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« Reply #2095 on: Friday, October 21, 2016, 10:48:29 »

I know, Woodward defected to Labour around about the time I moved away from Witney (ish) and up north, but I have to admit the fact that Witney had a Labour MP for a while tickled me somewhat!

Remember it well, my old man was chairman of the West oxon conservative association at the time. I dont trust any of them so just do a protest vote.
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« Reply #2096 on: Thursday, November 3, 2016, 10:34:54 »

  High Court rules that Parliament has to vote to trigger Art 50....can't just be nodded through by PM. 

  Government can appeal the decision.

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« Reply #2097 on: Thursday, November 3, 2016, 10:39:22 »

  High Court rules that Parliament has to vote to trigger Art 50....can't just be nodded through by PM. 

  Government can appeal the decision.

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Appeal been granted for the government. Now going to Supreme Court.
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« Reply #2098 on: Thursday, November 3, 2016, 10:46:54 »

Look forward to dealing with the inevitable rioting if Brexit doesn't happen.
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« Reply #2099 on: Thursday, November 3, 2016, 11:06:51 »

Lots of left wing types on my Twitter celebrating this, and whilst it is really quite funny that the attorney general doesn't know the law, the law of unintended consequences looms large. If May wants to pass Brexit through parliament, she'd be much more comfortable with doing so after calling a new election and securing a massive Conservative majority on the back of the pro-Brexit rage this is almost certainly going to cause.

Five years of the Tories with a 100+ majority? Well, at least Corbyn stood up for his principles eh?
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