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« Reply #1035 on: Tuesday, July 14, 2015, 20:22:09 »

I'm impressed by the Tories latest wheeze....floating the idea of compulsory privatised health care and sickness benefit etc.

Of course not something in the manifesto back in May.....don't suppose they'll be shareholders in the insurance companies either.
Great idea, Osborne

Oh wait a minute, the Liberals introduced it 100 years ago and called it National Insurance

So where's that money gone - the government, keen to reduce debt, has borrowed from the Fund for other purposes and there isn't much left.
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« Reply #1036 on: Thursday, July 16, 2015, 16:07:51 »

So Tim Farron has got the Lib Dem gig, went to a meting with him once and must say I was very impressed with the guy and his ability to cut through bollocks to get things sorted.
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« Reply #1037 on: Thursday, July 16, 2015, 18:06:57 »

He's a good speaker, and very much out of the Charles Kennedy mould politically. If Kendall wins the Labour vote, Farron's Lib Dems will absolutely be to her left economically as well as socially (where I'd argue the Libs have been left of Labour for 20 years). Will face some tough questions about his faith (and more specifically, abstaining from one gay marriage vote - not against, and not all of them, as will probably be written- Theyworkforyou rates him as strongly in favour ) but he could revive them, particularly if Labour implode.

For the record, I voted Lamb, who I agree with more politically, but think Farron might well connect with the public better.

Now, anyone for Jeremy Corbyn? Supposedly leading the polls for Labour leader. I can't see it happening.
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« Reply #1038 on: Thursday, July 16, 2015, 18:07:24 »

So Tim Farron has got the Lib Dem gig, went to a meting with him once and must say I was very impressed with the guy and his ability to cut through bollocks to get things sorted.


Always nice when you meet a politician that doesn't specialise in faecal buffing.  This was very much the case when I met Charles Kennedy on several occasions (Rest his soul). Even though he was aware of his problems and aware that everyone knew about his problems, that never took away the genuine character of open, honest and approachable behaviour that he stood by.  A great man. An even better Lib Dem. Nice to know that Tim Farron holds similar values. I'll watch closely this.

Time for Lib Dem to rebuild again after (naively) being shafted by the Tories.
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« Reply #1039 on: Thursday, July 16, 2015, 18:13:29 »

tbf there's a bit more to it than that. English Tory MPs have continually blocked SNP amendments to the Scotland Act despite the promises made in the days running up to the referendum. So this is a bit of tit for tat - if English Tories are going to mess with exclusively Scottish legislation, and (apparently) break the "Pledge" made to the Scots in doing so, then the Scots are going to make life hard for them in return. Cuts both ways.

Fair enough then.
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« Reply #1040 on: Thursday, July 16, 2015, 18:15:35 »

I voted for Farron on the basis that it's all about a rebuilding job now, and he seemed best able to get on with that.
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« Reply #1041 on: Thursday, July 16, 2015, 19:55:27 »

He's a good speaker, and very much out of the Charles Kennedy mould politically. If Kendall wins the Labour vote, Farron's Lib Dems will absolutely be to her left economically as well as socially (where I'd argue the Libs have been left of Labour for 20 years). Will face some tough questions about his faith (and more specifically, abstaining from one gay marriage vote - not against, and not all of them, as will probably be written- Theyworkforyou rates him as strongly in favour ) but he could revive them, particularly if Labour implode.

For the record, I voted Lamb, who I agree with more politically, but think Farron might well connect with the public better.

Now, anyone for Jeremy Corbyn? Supposedly leading the polls for Labour leader. I can't see it happening.

As a labour party member im still not sure who to vote for.  However I do tend to think that I'd like my party to lose because they have socialist ideals rather than win because they are tories.

Whichever way Id rather have an awful lot less of the PR men / women in politics.  Corbyn seems to be just an honest old lefty, not buffed up by the PR machine. 

Frankly someone has to oppose the current ghastly regime.
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« Reply #1042 on: Thursday, July 16, 2015, 20:31:26 »

I voted for Farron on the basis that it's all about a rebuilding job now, and he seemed best able to get on with that.
I didn't get a vote as uselessly it took me so long to get round to joining it was too late.

But I think I would have voted Farron as he impresses me... plus whoever was running Lamb's twitter account had a habit of re tweeting literally hundreds of messages at a time which blocked up my twitter and I found really irritating! Small things and all that!
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« Reply #1043 on: Friday, July 17, 2015, 07:14:28 »

I joined the Labour party just to vote for Corbyn
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« Reply #1044 on: Friday, July 17, 2015, 07:24:16 »

Seems a great number of Tories have done just the same.
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« Reply #1045 on: Monday, July 20, 2015, 19:28:14 »

A bit rich a TORY priminister warning a people that may become CANON FODDER.
on the other hand tories are probably the best to notice cannon fodder when they see it?
Maybe they're upset that other's  are using their resources' without asking permission.
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« Reply #1046 on: Tuesday, July 21, 2015, 06:26:29 »

Seems a great number of Tories have done just the same.

Good. Perhaps if Labour had provided a proper left wing, anti-austerity coherent alternative they wouldn't have been completely wiped out in Scotland, and maybe retained some seats in the rest of the UK too.

If he doesn't win, I go back to wasting my vote voting Green.
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« Reply #1047 on: Wednesday, July 22, 2015, 08:52:07 »

I joined the Labour party just to vote for Corbyn

According to YouGov poll, Corbyn on course to become leader....this is going to be fun. back to the 80's scenario, which caused the split in Labour, and the creation of the SDP, and then onto the LibDems.

It looks to me as if we're in for some major realignments over the coming couple of years....the EU referendum, is going to open a whole big can of worms.
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« Reply #1048 on: Wednesday, July 22, 2015, 09:05:01 »

According to YouGov poll, Corbyn on course to become leader....this is going to be fun.

Look at the Scottish referendum and the GE for the relevance of polling data recently. Stick with the bookies who don't get it wrong these days on politcial matters.

Corbyn is into 5/2 now mind you but Burnham has only drifted a little bit.
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« Reply #1049 on: Wednesday, July 22, 2015, 09:06:28 »

I met him at the Tolpuddle Festival the other day and saw him speak.  He spent his formative years in Chippenham so I like him already.  He is an unassuming character but speaks very well and has ideas that are, and I know this may seem ridiculous but, different to the government line.  

Its almost like he believes in being an opposition not a branch of the party in power with a different tie.

Im very glad he's there.
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