Let's Get Political!

[StfcRusty]

You never see newspaper comment pages or sites like this and other social mafia outlets driving and groaning with comments from conservative voters.

Sorry, can't let that go. Are you fucking kidding me? Take a visit to the Mail online some time.

[StfcRusty]

As for the election it was obvious, when you put an absolute prick In charge of the second largest party it will equal a majority. Thank fuck he resigned as if he got into power this Country would have been in serious trouble.

Out of interest, do you or any other non-Labour voters on here think any of the policies of capping utility bills, breaking up the bigger banks, restricting zero hours contracts, introducing 50% tax rate for higher earners or implementing Leveson could ever have been a good thing? (As we won't get any of them now)

[jonny72]

Out of interest, do you or any other non-Labour voters on here think any of the policies of capping utility bills, breaking up the bigger banks, restricting zero hours contracts, introducing 50% tax rate for higher earners or implementing Leveson could ever have been a good thing? (As we won't get any of them now)

Capping utility bills is one of the stupidest ideas that Miliband came up with. If there are problems with the utility market, there are plenty of other more suitable ways to address them. Price fixing is never a good idea.

Miliband blew the zero hour contracts issue out of proportion to make it an election issue, I suspect he failed. Again, if there is an issue (and it's a big if) with zero hour contracts then there are better ways to deal with it.

But what I really hate about that policy is the state interfering in the job market in a way they shouldn't. If you've got a zero hour contract and don't like it, find another job, if you can't then be grateful for what you've got. The state sticking it's nose in isn't going to magic a job or extra hours/pay out of nowhere.

[Arriba]

Will be interesting to look back at this thread in 5 years time and see where we are as a nation and what this Tory government have done by then.
I can only see it going one way and that isn't the way I'd like it to. An ever growing selfish non society based on greed and division is what I think will continue to grow. I predict a riot!

[Reg Smeeton]

Will be interesting to look back at this thread in 5 years time and see where we are as a nation and what this Tory government have done by then.
I can only see it going one way and that isn't the way I'd like it to. An ever growing selfish non society based on greed and division is what I think will continue to grow. I predict a riot!

 It will be most interesting to see if the nation still exists in 5 years.....Cameron will try to buy off the SNP with some Income Tax devo, maybe it'll work...but the bottom line is, if he loses Scotland, he loses Britain's seat on the Security Council.

 TBF to the fella, he seems to have little interest in foreign affairs, after failing to get a mandate to bomb Syria....as can be seen by lack of interest in Ukraine.

 Maybe it's a good thing....a logical end to the process begun by Edward I.

[jayohaitchenn]

If you've got a zero hour contract and don't like it, find another job, if you can't then be grateful for what you've got.

Wow.

[TheDukeOfBanbury]

Will be interesting to look back at this thread in 5 years time and see where we are as a nation and what this Tory government have done by then.
I can only see it going one way and that isn't the way I'd like it to. An ever growing selfish non society based on greed and division is what I think will continue to grow. I predict a riot!

I think you will refer to Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

Too many people look into the merits of Politics rather than basic economics and human behaviour.
Socialism has and will never work with greed.
Will say it again and sadly it is exactly this, you are on your own mate.

I only have to look at the behaviour of the CEO in the PLC I work for.
Utter selfish cunt. I have managed teams for many years now and simple values go a long way.
Pressure on people inside and outside of work are immense.

[herthab]

Unfortunately the politics of personalities is what elections are most about about nowadays. The majority of people haven't got a clue what policies each party subscribe to, apart from generic sound bites and most don't seem bothered to find out.

[herthab]

Will say it again and sadly it is exactly this, you are on your own mate.

Total and utter bollocks. (Unless you've never benefitted from the emergency services, the NHS, education, transport network, rubbish collection, etc, etc). The problem is there are too many people solely focused on themselves, not on the society they live in. I'm not advocating a socialist state; people should be able to succeed or fail based on their abilities and attitude, but not at the expense of everybody else. That would fragment the country even more.

[TheDukeOfBanbury]

Total and utter bollocks. (Unless you've never benefitted from the emergency services, the NHS, education, transport network, rubbish collection, etc, etc). The problem is there are too many people solely focused on themselves, not on the society they live in. I'm not advocating a socialist state; people should be able to succeed or fail based on their abilities and attitude, but not at the expense of everybody else. That would fragment the country even more.

So you think those people voted actually represent you.
Sorry I don't......then some in these high powered place fiddle expenses etc.
Yeah right pillars of society.
You are right people just focus on themselves, very sad but true.
However you can make a difference yourself and with your kids to try to bring them up the right way.
Tough World out there for sure and still believe you are very much on your own.

[sonicyouth]

Wow.

Indeed

[TheDukeOfBanbury]

Indeed

The only thing that you can ask for is a chance. Then it turns back to you.
Sadly some people are never given that chance.

[janaage]

Will be interesting to look back at this thread in 5 years time and see where we are as a nation and what this Tory government have done by then.
I can only see it going one way and that isn't the way I'd like it to. An ever growing selfish non society based on greed and division is what I think will continue to grow. I predict a riot!

Don't get why this has to be so black and white. So (and this isn't a direct reply to you Artiba it's more a general observation on many comments I've read on line over the last few days) it seems if you voted Conservative you're selfish, uncaring etc, and it's only the defeated labour supporters that wanted social equality etc.

Well I think that's a load of bull, I want a better standard of living for everyone, but my view is to get to that utopia you need a sound economic future. As soon as you delve into the detail and logic behind many of labours policies thes no way I could be happy to see Miliband get the keys to no.10. It'd be extremely damaging to the recovery and that'd mean to keep his promises our debt would grow and grow.

So personally, yes I did vote Tory, but the major reason for that was lack of alternative, their simply wasn't another party available to go for. If you'd offered me another 5 yrs of con/lib coalition I'd have gone for it in a flash, as I said five years ago I like the concept of a well formed coalition.

Looking forward to a higher personal allowance which will benefit millions. Also happy to see the zero hour contract debate fade away, as many are happy using themincluding most of the staff up our local, and unfortunately extra pressure on employers to make staff permanent after a set period would not have led to the desired results, it'd probably result in a logic people losing their jobs.

I won't get into the non-Dom debate but that was something out of nothing to, a headline grabber if ever there was one.

[TheDukeOfBanbury]

Don't get why this has to be so black and white. So (and this isn't a direct reply to you Artiba it's more a general observation on many comments I've read on line over the last few days) it seems if you voted Conservative you're selfish, uncaring etc, and it's only the defeated labour supporters that wanted social equality etc.

Well I think that's a load of bull, I want a better standard of living for everyone, but my view is to get to that utopia you need a sound economic future. As soon as you delve into the detail and logic behind many of labours policies thes no way I could be happy to see Miliband get the keys to no.10. It'd be extremely damaging to the recovery and that'd mean to keep his promises our debt would grow and grow.

So personally, yes I did vote Tory, but the major reason for that was lack of alternative, their simply wasn't another party available to go for. If you'd offered me another 5 yrs of con/lib coalition I'd have gone for it in a flash, as I said five years ago I like the concept of a well formed coalition.

Looking forward to a higher personal allowance which will benefit millions. Also happy to see the zero hour contract debate fade away, as many are happy using themincluding most of the staff up our local, and unfortunately extra pressure on employers to make staff permanent after a set period would not have led to the desired results, it'd probably result in a logic people losing their jobs.

I won't get into the non-Dom debate but that was something out of nothing to, a headline grabber if ever there was one.

Millions would agree with most of what you have written.
I have heard so many people, including myself, that Milliband couldn't run a bath let alone a Country.

[Pax Romana]

God knows that the labour party has its faults.  I cringe every time Milliband, Balls etc. jump on the absurdly lazy get out of jail free bandwagon of blaming everything on "the greedy bankers".

But the current Tories have no feel for how to unite a nation in difficult times except through fear.  How Cameron can claim to be a One Nation Tory is beyond me.  The removal of the 50p tax at a time when everyone was being asked to knuckle down and accept the realities of the economic crisis was what summed up the last government for me.

I thought that Balls showed a lot of class when he lost on Friday, especially given how visibly excited the young woman who won it for the Tories was.