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« Reply #9855 on: Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 06:53:55 »

Hope the police have seen it.
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« Reply #9856 on: Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 07:57:41 »

Hope its something of nothing but my daughter is seeing lots of stuff on social media about semi planned riots in London. lots of stuff about bringing fire retardant gloves, plain clothing and leaving mobiles behind threads amongst her age group (18/19)

Riots on UK streets, Boris Johnson gone missing, lets party like its 2011!
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« Reply #9857 on: Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 08:04:55 »

Long time since we had a proper bone fide planning scandal, they are genuinely much rarer than people think.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/robert-jenrick-met-police-westferry_uk_5ed51afec5b66d911c47ecdf
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« Reply #9858 on: Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 09:24:06 »

Surprised no-one's commented on the govt trying to force through abolishing Zoom debates and votes in the Commons to force MPs to attend instead, even though only 50 will be allowed in the chamber at a time. An out and out assault on parliamentary democracy.
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« Reply #9859 on: Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 09:30:09 »

Surprised no-one's commented on the govt trying to force through abolishing Zoom debates and votes in the Commons to force MPs to attend instead, even though only 50 will be allowed in the chamber at a time. An out and out assault on parliamentary democracy.

See its being widely reported that parliament is being recalled next week.

Sounds like a good thing doesn't it, however, still only 50 people will be allowed in the chamber at any time (so meaning 600 MP's will be omitted who previously could participate in business via the online system, and basically precludes any MP in a vulnerable category from attending for the foreseeable), the online hybrid system is being discontinued and there is as yet no agreed way of voting on any matters, so they have shut down the online system without any plan or idea how to replace it.

A further decay of democracy in this banana republic.


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« Reply #9860 on: Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 09:34:21 »


Well colour me "didn't read the thread properly". Sorry horlock!
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« Reply #9861 on: Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 16:34:16 »

FFS !

https://twitter.com/borisjohnson_mp/status/1267854930385276928?s=21
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« Reply #9862 on: Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 16:40:47 »

We're all human but £82k pa is not be the remuneration Crabb should be receiving.
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« Reply #9863 on: Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 23:59:38 »


I watched this earlier, more or less the whole of the first vote. The instructions were very simple clear ("State your name and which way you are voting") and shouted out to the MPs about every 10 seconds as they filed through.

The number who neither said their name or which they were voting, or said just their name, was huge.

That said the whole thing was a shambles and some MPs said this into the microphone immediately after the required information was given. Apparently there is a fully functional, fully tested and tried method for remote voting but Rees-Mogg is pursiuing his usual traditionalist/exclusionary agenda.
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« Reply #9864 on: Wednesday, June 3, 2020, 07:53:25 »

Its also worth noting that this will achieve sweet FA benefit for Johnson at PMQ's as it will still only be 50 in the house, further illustrating its a complete waste of time bar disenfranchising a large part of the population.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jun/02/the-tories-turn-parliament-into-the-worlds-worst-theme-park
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« Reply #9865 on: Wednesday, June 3, 2020, 09:25:12 »

Its also worth noting that this will achieve sweet FA benefit for Johnson at PMQ's as it will still only be 50 in the house, further illustrating its a complete waste of time bar disenfranchising a large part of the population.
Approx 15m voters who's MPs are excluded by this apparently. Democracy dies in stages
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« Reply #9866 on: Wednesday, June 3, 2020, 09:35:19 »

Approx 15m voters who's MPs are excluded by this apparently. Democracy dies in stages

Is that just those who should not be attended parliament due to vulnerable status, travel restrictions etc, assume the 600 ommited will change by each sitting and that there will be a rule to ensure that the govt doesn't just pick the 50 from their own benches.

PMQ is going to actually be no different and MP's will have to be careful that they don't get admonished like Hancock if they try to revert back to old methods.
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« Reply #9867 on: Wednesday, June 3, 2020, 10:26:59 »

Is that just those who should not be attended parliament due to vulnerable status, travel restrictions etc
Yes, that was the MPs who were excluded from the vote yesterday. Some, of course, may have had pairing arrangements but as those aren't published, it's difficult to tell. Excluding 600 MPs from debates is also pretty terrible if you believe in parliamentary democracy
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« Reply #9868 on: Wednesday, June 3, 2020, 11:32:16 »

Nice to see 'tone' coming up in PMQ's, seems to be the stock Tory response to questions they don't like, bloody snowflakes.

To avoid anyone having to bother watching it Johnson's new approach appears to be to basically respond that any question of the government is an attack on the public.....
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« Reply #9869 on: Thursday, June 4, 2020, 07:45:52 »

So Alok Sharma, the business secretary is having a Covid test after falling ill at the dispatch box yesterday. How many mps will have to self isolate if he tests positive?
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