Let's Get Political!

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After Gove's equally repllent wife tweeted a photo of their bookcase with lots of dictator fan books, she's now posted another with books including the Bell Curve, a notorious and long discredited racist tome which argues that blacks are intellectually inferior to whites, and the work of holocaust denier David Irving. Lovely couple



Small wonder that this govt thought it would be fine to employ eugenicists. Or that the coronavirus strategy was to let it sweep through the "herd" and so what if a few thousand pensioners died.

Dog whistles?

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After Gove's equally repllent wife tweeted a photo of their bookcase with lots of dictator fan books, she's now posted another with books including the Bell Curve, a notorious and long discredited racist tome which argues that blacks are intellectually inferior to whites, and the work of holocaust denier David Irving. Lovely couple



Small wonder that this govt thought it would be fine to employ eugenicists. Or that the coronavirus strategy was to let it sweep through the "herd" and so what if a few thousand pensioners died.

Whilst I think Gove is odious, despise his politics and his wife seems like someone who would be very difficult to like, I don't think owning/reading a book equates to agreeing or endorsing its contents.  Sometimes it's important to read things you vehemently disagree with, just to understand them.

Not quite the same but I regularly read the Daily Mail comments section.  I find most of the comments depressing and abhorrent and think the people that write what they write are some of the worst types of people.  But it's important to know those views are out there (en masse) as its only then that you have any chance of figuring out why people think like that.

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Whilst I think Gove is odious, despise his politics and his wife seems like someone who would be very difficult to like, I don't think owning/reading a book equates to agreeing or endorsing its contents.  Sometimes it's important to read things you vehemently disagree with, just to understand them.

Not quite the same but I regularly read the Daily Mail comments section.  I find most of the comments depressing and abhorrent and think the people that write what they write are some of the worst types of people.  But it's important to know those views are out there (en masse) as its only then that you have any chance of figuring out why people think like that.

Completely agree, but the Bell Curve isn't a serious work that needs repudiating, it's just racist nonsense. And it's not like the Goves need to be made aware of pseudo-intellectual justifications for racism, given she works for the Mail and he works for eugenicists. Likewise David Irving isn't a serious historian, he's an apologist for the Holocaust. These are both just pseudo-intellectual excusers of extreme racist views, the Bell Curve white supremacist, Irving anti-semitic

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Bloody hell, turns out ministers do still resign when they abuse their position, thought that went out of fashion last century

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52531078

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Whilst I think Gove is odious, despise his politics and his wife seems like someone who would be very difficult to like, I don't think owning/reading a book equates to agreeing or endorsing its contents.  Sometimes it's important to read things you vehemently disagree with, just to understand them.

Not quite the same but I regularly read the Daily Mail comments section.  I find most of the comments depressing and abhorrent and think the people that write what they write are some of the worst types of people.  But it's important to know those views are out there (en masse) as its only then that you have any chance of figuring out why people think like that.

The other picture is as good, its almost like they have a thing for short arsed dictators!



FWIW a lot depends on the context in which you purchased the piece. As a history student, I have a copy of Mein Kampft knocking around somewhere in the attic as we studied that as a background source, however I would not display it on a bookshelf if I ever found it again, likewise on the bookshelf next to me now I have works by Orwell and Engels and a biography of Moseley.

However to take that photo she is either very dim, or just showing off her credentials as a kind of fortnum and mason Hatey Cockpins.

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All done for attention and the creation of some false victimhood. Almost wondering if Vine is somehow more odious than her husband.

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All done for attention and the creation of some false victimhood. Almost wondering if Vine is somehow more odious than her husband.

Oh she is the power behind him, she is the link to Murdoch from which he achieves his influence!

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So...

Wilfred Lawrie Nicholas Johnson

Will, Law, Nick, Johnson?

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Starmer was very impressive in PMQ's yesterday. Boris not so impressive without his moronic bunch of braying cretins there to aid him.

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So apparently Stanley Johnson was on Good Morning Britain and said this:

"“I actually broke the lockdown rule … but I went, I said ‘there’s bound to be something in the papers’ and went across to the garage … I said ‘I know I’m not really meant to be out buying a newspaper I’m not sure it’s an essential journey but I just think there’s something in the paper today about my 14th grandchild’.”

Rachel Johnson has 3 children, Jo Johnson has 2. So Alexander de Pfeffel would appear to have 9 kids. And the gall to write columns castigating single parents for being "feckless".

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were they going to st Ives?

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So apparently Stanley Johnson was on Good Morning Britain and said this:

"“I actually broke the lockdown rule … but I went, I said ‘there’s bound to be something in the papers’ and went across to the garage … I said ‘I know I’m not really meant to be out buying a newspaper I’m not sure it’s an essential journey but I just think there’s something in the paper today about my 14th grandchild’.”

Rachel Johnson has 3 children, Jo Johnson has 2. So Alexander de Pfeffel would appear to have 9 kids. And the gall to write columns castigating single parents for being "feckless".

Stanley has been married twice and had 6 kids though, not 3.

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Yeah, get your facts right

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Apparently he was only asking because he wanted to bring his kids out once the cameras had gone.*

*Edit. The cameraman has since confirmed this, and there's actually film of Starmer politley asking for this reason.

That won't stop the likes of the Daily Mail lying about it, and it won't stop their readers from lapping it up. Hopefully he is able to deal with it better than Corbyn was.

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Stanley has been married twice and had 6 kids though, not 3.

Ah, hadn't thought of that. Thanks. As you were.