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« Reply #9255 on: Friday, February 7, 2020, 17:33:45 »

Nice, yet another case of failing to plan for outcomes, this was reported in the Express but seems to have vanished once it became clear its what's known as shooting ones own foot off... (Brief summary below)

So on Saturday after the Brexiteers all had their little parties, Guernsey decided it would be a good idea to BAN French fishing vessels from within 12 miles of its shores..... but turns out the Guernsey fishing community had not quite thought through the repercussions of this tiny act of stupidity.

The French have decided that if that is the case then Guernsey fishing vessels will not be able to dock into French ports in Normandy (where the Guernsey fishing vessels unload ALL their catch), and also that Guernsey is surrounded by French waters where Guernsey fishing vessels are now banned.



Reading about that elsewhere, it appears as though it's not quite like that.

It's something to do with a temporary cock-up over permits that will be resolved rather than an active decision to ban them.

So it wasn't that cock-up, it was a different cock-up. A different sort of incompetence. A better sort of incompetence that was described, thankfully. One hopes.
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« Reply #9256 on: Friday, February 7, 2020, 18:10:29 »


Cheers Horlock. Do you think the judge will pass it through?
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« Reply #9257 on: Monday, February 10, 2020, 10:27:40 »

Cheers Horlock. Do you think the judge will pass it through?

No idea way outside my area of planing and expertise and I have neither the time nor inclination to read up on the case, ultimately a JR is there to see if the decision maker has erred in law, its not there to overturn planning applications for subjective reasons, as the judiciary are always very careful to stay out of the planning system. It why all the fracking JR's failed, the Council had determined them correctly in law, just because the objectors don';t agree with the decision reached is not a reason for quashing!

See Buckland was on top form yesterday.

https://twitter.com/davidschneider/status/1226501229817352192

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« Reply #9258 on: Monday, February 10, 2020, 10:32:48 »

No idea way outside my area of planing and expertise and I have neither the time nor inclination to read up on the case, ultimately a JR is there to see if the decision maker has erred in law, its not there to overturn planning applications for subjective reasons, as the judiciary are always very careful to stay out of the planning system. It why all the fracking JR's failed, the Council had determined them correctly in law, just because the objectors don';t agree with the decision reached is not a reason for quashing!

See Buckland was on top form yesterday.

https://twitter.com/davidschneider/status/1226501229817352192



And Marr just lets it go unchallenged.

The bloke's useless. That is unless he's doing what he's told to do.
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« Reply #9259 on: Monday, February 10, 2020, 10:57:25 »

And Marr just lets it go unchallenged.

The bloke's useless. That is unless he's doing what he's told to do.

I think they have realised (rightly sadly) that people jut hear what they want to hear, so much as Patel making a complete bell end of herself wittering on about 'counter terrorists' the faithful just hear her being 'hard' on terrorists, likewise the bottom line on Bucklands message is taking action against johnny foreigner, which will be picked up, the fact that he is talking contrary nonsense will be ignored.
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« Reply #9260 on: Monday, February 10, 2020, 11:06:33 »

I think they have realised (rightly sadly) that people jut hear what they want to hear, so much as Patel making a complete bell end of herself wittering on about 'counter terrorists' the faithful just hear her being 'hard' on terrorists, likewise the bottom line on Bucklands message is taking action against johnny foreigner, which will be picked up, the fact that he is talking contrary nonsense will be ignored.
Which may well be the case. But it's no excuse for journalists not doing the basics of their job. Especially not when employed by the national broadcaster which we all pay for via the license fee.
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« Reply #9261 on: Monday, February 10, 2020, 12:14:39 »

Which may well be the case. But it's no excuse for journalists not doing the basics of their job. Especially not when employed by the national broadcaster which we all pay for via the license fee.

Just another way of turning people against the BBC to remove scrutiny sadly, classic Dom!

But don't worry we are now safe from unelected bureaucrats!

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/dominic-cummings-carrie-symonds-feud-21465832
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« Reply #9262 on: Monday, February 10, 2020, 20:05:18 »

Remember when the boss of Norton Motorcycles was used by Steve Barclay as a poster boy for Great British Businesses Backing Brexit? They've just gone bust, due to, among other things, "uncertainties created by Brexit" #ProjectFear

https://www.business-live.co.uk/manufacturing/norton-motorcycles-administration-what-went-17665433
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« Reply #9263 on: Monday, February 10, 2020, 20:09:19 »

Remember when Michael Gove insisted that it was just scaremongering to suggest that Brexit would mean additional red tape and tarriffs for British businesses? He's now told business to prepare for the reality - it will be "really costly" with "a lot of red tape" #ProjectFear

https://www.ft.com/content/37379a1e-4c28-11ea-95a0-43d18ec715f5
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« Reply #9264 on: Monday, February 10, 2020, 21:16:38 »

But you only need to spout rubbish for as long as it takes to win the argument

Reality has to kick in at some point
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« Reply #9265 on: Monday, February 10, 2020, 22:39:13 »

Still no sign of the Russia Report.
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« Reply #9266 on: Tuesday, February 11, 2020, 09:19:04 »

if the alleged misapplication of public funds to Jennifer Arcuri were ever re-investigated and Johnson found guilty of a crime, could he have his nationality cancelled and be deported to the country of his birth (ie the USA)?
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« Reply #9267 on: Tuesday, February 11, 2020, 09:41:24 »

Having the Jennifer Arcuri thing swept under the carpet means the police are complicit in that cover up - and that is sickening. Everybody should be concerned about that regardless of which side of the fence you stand.

But rather a lot of people are far too interested in 'winning'.
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« Reply #9268 on: Tuesday, February 11, 2020, 09:50:02 »

But you only need to spout rubbish for as long as it takes to win the argument

Reality has to kick in at some point
Not sure it will. In modern politics generally, there seems to be too many people who are too emotionally invested in their bad decisions to admit they might have got it wrong, and a general willingness among both the political class and the media that should be holding them to account to not bother too much about facts.
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« Reply #9269 on: Tuesday, February 11, 2020, 10:24:05 »

Having the Jennifer Arcuri thing swept under the carpet means the police are complicit in that cover up - and that is sickening. Everybody should be concerned about that regardless of which side of the fence you stand.

But rather a lot of people are far too interested in 'winning'.
Johnson used to influence the allocation of Londoners' tax payments to business entrepreneurs.

Now he influences the allocation of all of our tax payments  to the BBC (as noted above) and of course to the Police.  Hope Cressida will not be left feeling spurned like Jennifer.
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