Let's Get Political!

[BambooToTheFuture]

Meanwhile at the ITV Debate Studio...

JE: Mr Johnson, do you like potatoes?

BJ: What we need to do is...stop all this dither and delay, so we can focus on getting Brexit done! *Looks pleased as punch with himself*

JE: *muffled audio* I fucking give up.

JC: *adjusts tie*

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That pretty much sums up what we learnt from that debate. A few of the questions ITV decided to go with were poor. Who the fuck gives a shit what they'd leave each other under the Christmas Tree?!

We're at one of the most important and pivotal moments in the future of our country, which will affect several decades of people. Yet we have some privileged cunts scoffing at some tongue-in-cheek bullshit. Top job.

[Arriba]

As predicted, Johnson just said "get Brexit done" over and over again. Nothing of any substance at all. The Tories Twitter change to 'factcheck' last night was a massive own goal by their habitual idiot James Cleverly. Maybe I was hasty in thinking they have this won already. Their arrogance, dishonesty and stupidity is shining through.

[Flashheart]

The tories press twitter account last night changed its name to 'factcheckUK' during last night's debate.

They're trying every dirty trick they can think of.

[horlock07]

Written by Peter Oborne former Tory, former Telegraph....

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/18/boris-johnson-lying-media

The rather harrowing bit is:

A big reason for Johnson’s easy ride is partisanship from the parts of the media determined to get him elected. I have talked to senior BBC executives, and they tell me they personally think it’s wrong to expose lies told by a British prime minister because it undermines trust in British politics. Is that a reason for giving Johnson free rein to make any false claim he wants?

See also https://twitter.com/PoliticsJOE_UK/status/1196932484702838784

[Flashheart]

they tell me they personally think it’s wrong to expose lies told by a British prime minister because it undermines trust in British politics. /i]

I saw that the other day - bizarre. And dangerous. And fucking enraging. And all sorts of other 'bad' stuff.

These cunts are paid with license payer's money.

[horlock07]

I saw that the other day - bizarre. And dangerous. And fucking enraging. And all sorts of other 'bad' stuff.

These cunts are paid with license payer's money.

See also https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/general-election-british-uk-media-news-bias-tories-labour-a9209026.html

[Flashheart]

Laura Kuntingberg appears to have given up all pretence of impartiality on her twitter account. I wonder if some are concerned about their jobs should the tories not win.

[pauld]

The tories press twitter account last night changed its name to 'factcheckUK' during last night's debate.

While their leader was openly laughed at as he spoke about the importance of truth and honesty during the debate, his party were deliberately and consciously setting out to deceive. The Tories are now openly fundamentally dishonest

[horlock07]

Laura Kuntingberg appears to have given up all pretence of impartiality on her twitter account. I wonder if some are concerned about their jobs should the tories not win.

I was thinking about this, have Labour actually said anything about the BBC? On past issues regarding funding the BBC probably have more to fear from another Tory government?

[horlock07]

While their leader was openly laughed at as he spoke about the importance of truth and honesty during the debate, his party were deliberately and consciously setting out to deceive. The Tories are now openly fundamentally dishonest

Apparently people like being lied to....

[pauld]

I was thinking about this, have Labour actually said anything about the BBC? On past issues regarding funding the BBC probably have more to fear from another Tory government?

The BBC as a whole may do. But individuals within the BBC, and specifically their political news staff, may have their own agendas/fears/incentives

[pauld]

Apparently people like being lied to....

tbf, I always prefer it when my missus tells me I'm terrific in bed

[Red Frog]

The tories press twitter account last night changed its name to 'factcheckUK' during last night's debate.

They're trying every dirty trick they can think of.

Godwin's Law be damned, this is a huge fucking deal. If the UK's media remains complicit in allowing this open war on truth to be conducted on the UK electorate, and the voters don't punish it severely, then we've seriously learnt nothing from the lessons of the rise of the Nazis.

[horlock07]

Godwin's Law be damned, this is a huge fucking deal. If the UK's media remains complicit in allowing this open war on truth to be conducted on the UK electorate, and the voters don't punish it severely, then we've seriously learnt nothing from the lessons of the rise of the Nazis.

This morning Twitter have moaned a bit about the Torys actions but done nowt, but then suspended a load of people who changed their account name to CCHQ to take the piss.

[Red Frog]

This morning Twitter have moaned a bit about the Torys actions but done nowt, but then suspended a load of people who changed their account name to CCHQ to take the piss.

Twitter and Facebook's action - or inaction - here is likely to be as big a factor as it was in the last US election. This is the real battleground, and by the time the protests are lodged, the news cycle has moved on and the people who were being targeted have swallowed the original deceit, as intended.

When things move this fast, we really need a regulator, or a court, that can act quickly and decisively when bare-faced lies are published with no redress.