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« Reply #7350 on: Thursday, October 17, 2019, 14:11:21 »

I think you're being a bit unfair on Flashheart here.
Cheesy I was trying to be slightly more fair to some of the instant commenters in the media - ie they're not lying just don't know what they're talking about. BBC, I'm looking at you Smiley
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« Reply #7351 on: Thursday, October 17, 2019, 14:17:14 »

Hopefully this deal goes through and we can then move on to the next 3 or 4 years of trade talks!

If I was Corbyn I'd accept the deal and then once an election is called, if the PLP wishes to campaign to rejoin at the earliest opportunity.

I have a feeling opposing this deal and an election will massively backfire on Labour and the Lib Dems and could result in a fairly large Tory majority and the hardest form of Brexit.
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« Reply #7352 on: Thursday, October 17, 2019, 15:05:26 »

Brokenshire on the BBC right now with his Johnson firmly within the depths of Johnson's anus. Lauding him as some kind of miracle worker.
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« Reply #7353 on: Thursday, October 17, 2019, 15:10:43 »

Brokenshire on the BBC right now with his Johnson firmly within the depths of Johnson's anus. Lauding him as some kind of miracle worker.
Really hoping that's metaphorical.
This deal is basically the same deal as May's (with some tweaks), which Johnson felt was such a betrayal of Brexit that he resigned from the cabinet over it.
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« Reply #7354 on: Thursday, October 17, 2019, 15:13:24 »

Even I could make a deal the EU would agree to.

Whether or not it would be a deal other people (parliament) will vote for is another matter entirely.
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« Reply #7355 on: Thursday, October 17, 2019, 15:19:28 »

Really hoping that's metaphorical.
This deal is basically the same deal as May's (with some tweaks), which Johnson felt was such a betrayal of Brexit that he resigned from the cabinet over it.

Amusingly (if it wasn't so shit for the country) the deal is very similar to what the EU wanted initially, Johnson has basically caved on just about everything yet is being lauded as some manner of deal maker!
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« Reply #7356 on: Thursday, October 17, 2019, 15:35:59 »

Add into the mix the media BBC are misleading the public, in terms of Juncker's comments on the 'deal'. Although in essence he's just saying UK Parliament, over to you.

I also liked how Juncker was dumbing the press down as he got a final say in "I'm happy about a deal but not happy about Brexit."
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« Reply #7357 on: Thursday, October 17, 2019, 15:42:35 »

"The likelihood of Boris Johnson's deal passing in Parliament is 50/50, says Conservative MP Stephen Crabb."

No shit Sherlock
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« Reply #7358 on: Thursday, October 17, 2019, 15:47:45 »

This might be interesting:

https://waitingfortax.com/2019/09/15/the-flaw-in-the-benn-act/

TLDR: Brexiteers don't really want this deal, but are using it as a ruse to get round the Benn Act. If the ERG, DUP and sufficient ex-Tories and Leave minded Labour MPs vote for the deal on Saturday, then the govt have fulfilled the provisions of the Benn Act. But the Withdrawal Act requires further stages to ratify the deal. If the govt refuse to put those before parliament, then we leave with a de facto No Deal on Oct 31st. (That might be a bad summary, if so blame me, not the author)
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« Reply #7359 on: Thursday, October 17, 2019, 15:48:07 »

No shit Sherlock
Isn't that the kid in Hull?
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« Reply #7360 on: Thursday, October 17, 2019, 16:11:39 »

Isn't that the kid in Hull?

No. His name is, Will Shit Sherlock. Easy make to mistake.
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« Reply #7361 on: Thursday, October 17, 2019, 16:54:31 »

Mix of politics and STFC related football. First time JAF has appeared on my twitter feed but love all the STFC around his account.
https://twitter.com/janaagefjortoft/status/1184858400154357760?s=21
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« Reply #7362 on: Thursday, October 17, 2019, 16:58:29 »

To give Boris due credit (appreciate I may already have lost all readers) a lot of his opponents questioned his sincerity in genuinely wanting a deal.  Clearly he did.
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« Reply #7363 on: Thursday, October 17, 2019, 20:15:16 »

To give Boris due credit (appreciate I may already have lost all readers) a lot of his opponents questioned his sincerity in genuinely wanting a deal.  Clearly he did.
Unless Maugham is correct in the article I cited above and it's just an attempt to outflank the Benn Act? Who knows any more what any of them are up to? I'll give Johnson this though, he's achieved one of his objectives. He's rendered Farage irrelevant which is what he was elected leader of the Tory Party to do
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« Reply #7364 on: Thursday, October 17, 2019, 21:01:20 »

Looking forward to the remainer MP’s and the faux leave MP’s (AKA Benn bill supporters) rejecting this bill for the lovely EU to reject another extension. Will piss myself laughing.
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